Pretty much as title reads... its my buddies EF. d16 motor. we had it running a week ago, but its been having idle problems. then we found that his intake manifold was cracked. so he went and bought the manifold from a junkyard off the same exact motor....

he swapped the manifolds...then me and my buddy ran his coolant lines and vac lines/plugs....

now the car will not start at all....??? any ideas from anyone would be great!??? seems like it is not getting any spark. going to pull the plug out today and actually test if there is spark or not.
but the car cranks pretty strong..just wont kick.

oh...and yes, it is a BRAND NEW dizzy thats on there. still could be the igniter tho..right? maybe from over heating?

any help is greatly appreciated.....thnx e1

 

BUMP

 

all i read was spark how bout fuel is it getting that?

 

90% positive it is getting fuel. im gonna check tonight after work for sure. but the thing is...it started no problem before he changed out the manifold...thats the wierd part about everything..??

 

solid check engine light??? or none???

make sure theres not a HUGE vacuum leak. check for spark and fuel. and dont check fuel at the rail check for injector pulse.

pull the hazard fuse to reset the ecu and try again.

 

might be a main relay

 

go backwards from Removal. Start from scratch. Then def. check a relay. Some fuse in one of those two spots. That'll get you started for showar.

 

ok. here is the latest 411....

i checked: the main relay (good), fuel pump primes (good), all fuses under the dash (good), spark (good), fuel (no good)-

we figured we'd try changing out the fuel pressure regulator b/c we thought maybe it was clogged...and when we took it off, there was no hint of gas at all. so then we checked the gas return line...no gas either!!! so...now we're gonna try to replace the fuel rail and the injectors. i know for a fact that this guys injector shielding (the plastic that protects the nozzle) are all cracked!!!! idk why this guy put them in! so i'll keep everyone posted. if you have any other suggestions please lemme know so i can check on that as well..

thanks H-tech...

 

be sure to check the fuel filter and that he has gas in the tank just in case u never know when its someone else's car!

 

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brand new fuel filter and half a tank of gas....

 

harness ground

 

everything is grounded. nothing as far as the ground comes off when changing out the intake manifold anyways...but thnx

 

some times noobs do stupied things.

 

ok....so my buddy said he swapped out the fuel rail and injectors and the car is still not firing up! it cranks but will not crank over! wtf could this be???

bump ttt

 

you check the ground on the thermostat? also things you need to get the bitch to start.

1.fuel
2.spark
should start

could be that you have the injector wiring plugged into the incorrect injector if you do not have the stock plastic injector holder on the harness.

 

right on. yea...i already checked the ground on the thermostat. its all good. there is definately spark...the fuel im not sure about tho.

the fuel pump primes....the main relay clicks TWICE.... what could be the reason the no fuel is getting from the fuel filter to the fuel rail to the injectors????

 

chances are that it is something really stupid at this point.... take a look at everything, make sure he didnt unpull the injector resistor box (if using one) or left one of the main harness plugs unpluged. besure all the ecu plugs are in nice and tight. check all fuses, ect. i ve had bad pressure regulators before (stuck open) try a known good one. and there should be at least 3 gounds to the engine, now we know the thermostat housing one is there, make sure the one by the clutch cable and the one going to the vlave cover on the drivers side is there as well, if so try adding another, it never hurts. when u turn the key to the "on" position does the ecu led flash once? stay on solid? does it do anything? im certain this is going to turn out to be something really dumb.

 

take off the line that goes on the bottom of the fuel regulater face it towards the outside of you car and turn the key to the on position and see if the line throwout fuel. if doesn't might be fuel pump but first check if your main relay makes the clicking noise when you put it to the start position to eliminate the main relay. also just in case check the ecu fuse in the engine. one more thing make sure that the grounds cables aren't corroaded. hit me back to what see what happens.

p.s. becareful were the fuel is going to shoot out.

 

p.s. becareful were the fuel is going to shoot out.

^^^ hehe, yea, i would hold a cup under that thing

 

if you take the line from the bottom of the regulator fuel isnt going to shoot out of that line, its going to shoot out the regulator.

take the OUTLET line off the filter and check fuel there, if thats good, check the other end of that line, where it meets the rail. if fuel there and non passing through the rail then you have something clogging the rail. come on, no fuel diags arent hard, its a SMALL system. if the pump is putting out fuel work your way to the regulator and you will find the problem.

 

yea for sure! he recently replaced the fuel rail and injectors. same thing...no start!!!

and obviously i'm not stupid shardbody....it is not a large fuel delivery system. but i am looking for any and all suggestions...otherwise honda-tech wouldn't even exist...

but i do appreciate your response. i agree with you that u cant check the fuel from the back of the fpr. i did check it from the "in" side of the regulator and there was nothing!

so now i am going to have to check it from the fuel filter and so forth...

will update as soon as i check the fuel filter...

thnx again everyone!

 

i wasnt downing you man, i was trying to motivate you to put some time in it checking. we can make suggestions all day but it doesnt matter if we arent there to do the diagnosis.

 

i did the same thing only i had a stage two intake that i was told worked for the car from the kid i bought it from and i switched them out it didnt run right with it on there so i switched it back to stock and now there are coolant lines running to nowhere i put everything back on besides this one line and it wont run right it idles fine now but im supposed to be able to wind it up to 4and 1\2 grand and thats where it tachs with the chip i have when im not moving now it gets up to like 3 maybe 3 and 1\2 on a good turn but it will not run right anyone got any suggestions please help its the jdm d16 if anyone has the diagram for the coolant lines that run on the manifold it would be so helpful and possibly the vaccum to just to make sure i have it all right this is my first honda and i havent driven it longer than a week and i have no other veichle it is a d16 running vtech

 

this thread is scaring me. i was planning on swapping my intake manifold this weekend. haha

 

wtf people? why are you "scared"
takes about an hour to swap it out....if you are freakin out THEN LEAVE IT TO A SMART PERSON TO DO

man....flame me if you want..but if your "scared" to do it, your a freakin pansy