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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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I'm looking to make a set of drop spindles, but i'm just not sure.

it seems pretty clear cut, but is it as simple as i think it is?

are all you doing is essentially moving your hub up, there are no angles or anything i would have to mess with to get the correct geometry, right?

i've seen 1 set for a CR-X before, and there aren't a whole lot of information on them, but since the camber kit for the 3G prelude is bullshit, and we just got KSports, this seems to be just about ideal


any input, pictures, thoughts, they're all appreciated, i wasn't sure if i should put this here or in the fab section, but i figure for information only, this is the better section

thanks alot

Justin
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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leave it for the minitrucks
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlude90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm looking to make a set of drop spindles, but i'm just not sure.

it seems pretty clear cut, but is it as simple as i think it is?

are all you doing is essentially moving your hub up, there are no angles or anything i would have to mess with to get the correct geometry, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's not as simple as it first seems, especially when your axle shaft hits the damper mounting fork . . .

Why are you considering such an option? And what do camber kits have to do with anything?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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the car, as it sits, races auto-x and rally, with road racing coming soon

hence the need for coilovers, and since i have a drop on race springs, its at a good ride height, but there is a lot of suspension travel taken away

so if i had drop spindles and coilovers, my suspension geometry would be at a better position, and the only camber kit available for the 3GP is the Ingalls kit that has a serious defect in design as it cuts in to the spindle, and i know it isn't a problem, but that is also hampering my suspension travel and i can only guess at the damage it does the my ball joints

like i said, i've seen a few around for Hondas, but information is very limited, and i was just wanting general information on it

thanks for the suggestion of the axle hitting the suspension, i never thought of that, this is the kind of info i was looking for
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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two words for ya... RYANE MOTORSPORTS.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Ryane is now Held Motorsports http://www.heldmotorsports.com/index.htm

but thanks alot for that name
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlude90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the car, as it sits, races auto-x and rally, with road racing coming soon</TD></TR></TABLE>
What classes, and what sanctioning bodies?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hence the need for coilovers, and since i have a drop on race springs, its at a good ride height, but there is a lot of suspension travel taken away

so if i had drop spindles and coilovers, my suspension geometry would be at a better position, and the only camber kit available for the 3GP is the Ingalls kit that has a serious defect in design as it cuts in to the spindle, and i know it isn't a problem, but that is also hampering my suspension travel and i can only guess at the damage it does the my ball joints</TD></TR></TABLE>
I am still missing the point as to why you think you need camber kits or srop spindles. Lowering the ride height without gaining any static negative camber almost defeats the purpose; you'll have to go even lower (or use the camber kits) to gain any decent amount of static negative camber. Lowering it farther may cause clearance issues in the wheel wells and under the car.

Messing with the stock suspension geometry usually creates more problems than it solves unless you're changing pick-up points. What static camber specs are you running?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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i'm not aiming for a certain class, and while i do know that with my H&R race springs i have currently that no camber kit would put me at a pretty good spot, i'm about to realign at 2 negative up front, and maybe a degree out back, i've not decided yet, but either way i'm bottoming my suspension out on Falken Ziex and when i get r-comps in the future i'm really going to bottom them out, unless the k-sports keep some roll down

and i'm not aiming for specific classes, for this car i'm just doing what i want, and race where i'm placed, and by road racing i meant HPDE, not actual wheel to wheel

its just that i have access to machining equipment and people with tons of welding experience so i figured since it seems like it would help immensely why not take a shot at making a set

but the guy who like the Ryane's, i think DC rears fit my car, and we're going to try DC fronts soon, so i may not even have to make them
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