I went to Acura Dealer today and test drove the new 2002 Type S, but I was really disappointed with the car. There was no power whatsoever. It seemed like the older integra put out more. Maybe it was new and the a/c was on.

Did anyone feel this way when they test drove the Type S.

Just wondering if anyone else feels the same about my experience today.

Will the car get better after the break in period?

 

Of course its not going to feel strong when a/c is on! Also after about 10000kms car feels slightly stronger.

 

ummm no. I wouldnt touch an older Integra except an R with a 10 foot pole.

I test drove the S2000 and thought it was weak until VTEC engagement. Seriously.

 

Every honda and Acura is weak until vtec engages. Any honda is going to feel weak with the air conditioning on. What do you expect? Personally, I don't know why other people pick on other people's hondas. It's all the same family of cars.

And yes, I think the RSX-S is a wonderful car. It gets faster after break in and vtec is softer because of the new i-vtec. I think the type R and type S are very close in straight line speed.

 

 

... this is why this forum got its new title...

s2000 puts out much more hp than a type S

 

Ummm, yeah I think we're all well aware. It's not like he said that they did have the same horsepower. His point was that even though the S2000 is a considerably more powerful car, even it felt weak until vtec engaged. NOT, the S2000 and RSX should feel the same when vtec engages. If your going to just look for fights to start do us a favour and stop posting, The reason this form got it's title is because people like you kept jumping to conclusions about what was being said.

 

thats why vtec is around, of course its gonna feel weak when not in vtec, thats why honda get good gas milage....it drives like a normal efficent car untill you step into it ....VTEC engages.... ...the i-vtec feels weak because its a much more smoother ingagement, but my ITR still pulls harder when that cam kicks in

 

damn idiots

 

Uh, the forum got its new title because he is a Moderator

he can do that. He can do whatever he wants.

 

Who cares if an ITR feels like VTEC hits harder when the second cam kicks in.

 

Our 4th gear here in Oz catches the DC2R...

 

he is a administrator.

 

thats cause you guys are lucky enough to get LSD, i dont understand why the USDM RSX-s doesnt...its a great option to make the car handle so much better....ACURA is dumb by not giving that to the RSX-s if they dont wanna give it to the base model, ok i can understand that...but the top of the line model should...i mean the cl-type s gets it....

 

I peronally prefer ITR more than RSX-S.
But test drive the RSX-S with the a/c on and come to the conclusion that the car has no power at all doesn't sound scientific to me.

 

No Honda has power with the a/c on. It's pretty close to the R in straight line speed.

I said it once and I'm going to say it again. We all have the same family of cars. You look like an idiot when you mach the same brand of car that everyone else drives on this board. Be appreciative.

 

Really? Perhaps in terminal speed or topspeed, but not in straight line acceleration. Perhaps if the RSX-Type S had better [i.e., grippier] tires they'd be closer. Perhaps SCC should do a comparison: Type R vs. Type S with the same competition tires on an autocross course or road course. That would be interesting.

 

0-60 times aren't that different. Stickier tires on the RSX-S would give it more of an advantage. Be realistic.

 

I dont know what's happening to this board. Seems like alot of ppl are to busy hating on other people's cars than actually helping each other out.

 

WTF is your problem? Can't you read?

I am stating my personally opinion here. I did NOT say ITR has a better performance than RSX-S. I just said I PERSONALLY PREFER ITR. For reason please look at my signature. I don't see ANYTHING WRONG by saying which car I like more and I did NOT say I hate RSX-S or anything similar to this idea.

READ AGAIN!
In plain English: It is not fair to say RSX-S have no power with a/c on.
So I am actually on the RSX-S's side on this topic, how can you translate my idea to something like I hate RSX-S?

Advice to AURSX-S: I can see that you are a trial user, so you might not be too familiar with the rules. Read before you post, and don't start a flame war. At the end, who looks like an idiot now?

Peace


[Modified by Ideal R, 11:36 AM 7/11/2002]

 

why do ppl keep comparing the type s to the type r??

and i just hate it when ppl say, "if the car had stickier tires, better suspension, blah blah" if if if...if only the type r had 100 more horsepowers

the type s has the "sport" side of the market...it's quick and has luxury, but definitely not fast or a race car

to

 

rsx-s = luxury coupe

DC2-R = Factory built Race Car

not much else you can say

 

VTEC in a s2000 and RSX-S are not going to feel the same...more compression in a s2000, the cams are different. NO IVTEC in a s2000 neither. In case you boys haven't heard TODA says the Intake Variable cam timing (The I in IVTEC)hurts performance.

 

no such thing as the Second cam. How about different cam lobe (its the VTEC Lobe, its the middle lobe)

 

That would make for an interesting thread itself. I can see two reasons for it.

For the 3rd generation Integra people, I think that the ITR represents the DC2 chassis in its purest form. But it also represents the best performance in the line. Considering the fact that the DC2 is now an eight year old design it seems only fair to use the best possible version to compare to the newer car. For myself, I look at the DC2R and see a direction Honda could have taken the 4th generation (but chose not to).

On the RSX side, many of the RSX people would like to consider their car the equal of the most vaunted derivative of the last Integras. The ITR is the car to beat, or at least keep up with.

However, the driving experience reveals that the two cars are ill-suited for the comparison. The ITR is a car for people who value low mass and a mechanically direct nature over comfort. The RSX is more of a daily commuter with a much less aggressive nature, but it has comfy seats, a soft ride and nice ergonomics. You can only compare them on paper (or computer screens).




[Modified by MK Ultra, 1:00 PM 7/14/2002]