I put my car on the lift and noticed that my FR Traction bars are rubbing on my wheels! I dont like the fact that the mounting point is on the bushing either.

ITs an EM1 with 1 piece LCA.

They already scratched the inside of my 15x7 +35mm Regamasters, ALL AROUND!

I was wondering if i can weld the mounting point of the bars like shown in the picture.

 

I wouldn't worry too much about the bushing mount. The bolt there is large and can hold a lot of torque. If you're concerned about the bushing deflecting fore and aft, I'd use a poly bushing.

Although welding the arm inward will help increase wheel clearance, you're moving it away from the wheel and making wheel hop more pronounced.

If I were you, I'd have a new link from rod end to rod end made with a curved piece of cr-mo. That will keep modification to a min and increase your wheel clearance.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carchitect &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn't worry too much about the bushing mount. The bolt there is large and can hold a lot of torque. If you're concerned about the bushing deflecting fore and aft, I'd use a poly bushing.

Although welding the arm inward will help increase wheel clearance, you're moving it away from the wheel and making wheel hop more pronounced.

If I were you, I'd have a new link from rod end to rod end made with a curved piece of cr-mo. That will keep modification to a min and increase your wheel clearance.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I forgot to add the actual Bracket/bolt that are holding the rod end is rubbing on my rim, metal to metal.

 

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I forgot to add the actual Bracket/bolt that are holding the rod end is rubbing on my rim, metal to metal.


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is that an FR bad made specifically for EM1's ?? if not it shouldn't be on that car, However, we did have a customer who moved the radius rod bracket over and welded it to the LCA

 

or you could just put some non SI front lca's in the car

 

i'd contact full race and see what they advise as a solution, afterall, it is their product.

 

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is that an FR bad made specifically for EM1's ?? if not it shouldn't be on that car, However, we did have a customer who moved the radius rod bracket over and welded it to the LCA</TD></TR></TABLE>
It id specifically for the EM1. I guess i'll give FR a call and see.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or you could just put some non SI front lca's in the car</TD></TR></TABLE>
What else would i need to do this? Just the sway bar? I guess some new hardware from FR also.

 

you might have to high of an off set on your wheels. (ie higher then stock)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you might have to high of an off set on your wheels. (ie higher then stock)</TD></TR></TABLE>
The offset i have sticks the wheel away from the car. +35mm.

 

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It id specifically for the EM1. I guess i'll give FR a call and see.

What else would i need to do this? Just the sway bar? I guess some new hardware from FR also. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you will need the sway bar, the end links and the lower shock fork. integra fLCA's are different, so you will need 96-00 non si EK lca's

 

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you will need the sway bar, the end links and the lower shock fork. integra fLCA's are different, so you will need 96-00 non si EK lca's</TD></TR></TABLE>
right on.the FR bars for 92+ civic( except 99-00 Si) and 94+ Integras attach to the bolt that holds the two parts of the LCA together,which is further inward,and doesn't have any rubbing issues.
on the 99-00 Si they had no other option that didn't require welding to attach it to.
Chris

 

If switching to the acura forks then how do you maintain the front swaybar on the si?Mine was switched and the sway was just left in there loose so I am trying to figure out if I can make it work before ditching the sway?

 

you just need a non si ek front sway and end links.

the stuff for the si has to be all EK stuff, eg and dc2 LCA's wont work if i remember correctly. one of the bushings that bolts to the subframe is bigger on the ek.

 

its due to the offset of the wheel, plus the added width. because its 7" wide with that offset, your inner clearance is 3mm less.

 

I know if you contact Full-Race they will sell you the needed parts to change them over to the other style?

Well I am running the non si forks so what would be needed besides that to make the front sway bar?I would really like to keep the front sway.

 

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The offset i have sticks the wheel away from the car. +35mm.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It isn't that easy.

Offset can not be compared between rims of different widths. So if you are running a wheel that is wider then stock the offset still might be higher then stock

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by siblues &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know if you contact Full-Race they will sell you the needed parts to change them over to the other style?

Well I am running the non si forks so what would be needed besides that to make the front sway bar?I would really like to keep the front sway.

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the end links..

 

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It isn't that easy.

Offset can not be compared between rims of different widths. So if you are running a wheel that is wider then stock the offset still might be higher then stock</TD></TR></TABLE>
These bars are not made to be ran with stock rims/tires. It shouldnt have been an issue. I DO have stock si wheels also, and guess what. They rub also.

I took a few looks at other traction bars and decided to just weld the mounts on the LCA's it still wont be further inward for the normal EK BArs, so i should be fine.

 

I dont think the offset should be a issue what about the guys that really use these with slicks and wider wheels?

 

just want to know how it worked out welding the bracket to the LCA?Im having the same problem with the same car and the FR traction bars.i was thinking about putting in regular EK LCA's but then there is no connect for the sway bar.I need help!

 

When I put the si front lca's on my hatch, I welded a piece just inside the bolt to hook up the traction bar.

I didn't notice any difference in wheel hop of 60' times. i still get 1.6x 60's.

 

you have any pics?

 

I don't have any pics, I just made 4 triangles and drilled the holes before I welded them to the lca. This was about 3-4 yrs ago.

 

did you use the same exact bars or did you have to shorten them?

 

Its been a while, but I think I didn't have to do anything to the bars. It had enough rod end to make it work.