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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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I have a 1994 Honda Accord EX, (NightShade Grey Pearl, NH577P)

The paint is in terrible condition, (Scratches, Squirl Marks) and the body needs some repair.

I have completely repaired the hood, and primed with 3 11oz cans of regular sandable primer. The hood is completely smooth, and looks ready for painting.

I am going to spray it with Urethane Paint.

Is the primer I applied Sufficient for urethane paint?
Some people said I need to use a urethane primer.

Also Do I need to apply primer sealer or no?

I'm not looking for anything spectacular, just want to apply fresh paint and clear.

Thanks in Advance

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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 02:32 AM
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Yes you need to apply a sander/sealer urethane based primer. Depending on how long it has been since you primed your hood, I would sand it again before applying the urethane primer. This seals your body repairs and bare metal from the elements because plain primer is very porous and you will get surface rust if you don't already.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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dude u need 2 strip that rattle can primer off and prime wit real primer from a paint store where ur going 2 get the paint if not there is a chance the primer in the can will lift as soon as u spray paint on it ps get urethane primer n sealer and finish sand primer wit 320 grit or finer so u will not c any sand scratches in your paint work
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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So I have to take this down to the metal again?

I sanded this primer with 220 then 400 then 800 wet.

It looks pefect.

So I have to start over, why do they sell this primer if you can't use it?

So I just need like a gallon or so of Urethane primer sealer?
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dvs407 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude u need 2 strip that rattle can primer off and prime wit real primer from a paint store where ur going 2 get the paint if not there is a chance the primer in the can will lift as soon as u spray paint on it ps get urethane primer n sealer and finish sand primer wit 320 grit or finer so u will not c any sand scratches in your paint work </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't listen to this guy. Not only is he keyboard illiterate, he is also unable to be completely accurate.

You need to sand on your old primer. You probably have some surface rust you can't see even if it looks fantastic with the naked eye. Start from 320 and work your way back up with a DA sander. You may go through your old primer in a few spots and edges but that's okay. After you're done knocking this stuff down, apply some PPG Sander/Sealer and this will not only be a better primer than the rattle-can stuff, but it will protect what's underneath it until you lay your paint down. I would apply a couple coats of this and sand it down to perfection each time. Your final coat should be left unsanded until you're ready for paint. Go to a paint shop and let them look at what you currently have. See what they reccomend. Hope this helps you out.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 04:25 AM
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Ok cool, thanks for the info guys,

I am going to take it down to bare metal, then grind out any rust, fill it, primer/sealer, sand, and spray!
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 04:44 AM
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Sorry if it came across the wrong way...you may have surface rust sitting on top of the primer. THAT needs to be sanded off. You don't have to take it down to bare metal if you don't want to, but it may be the better way to go...
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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No there is no surface rust on top of the primer, I actually sanded the old paint off, down to the original primer, took some spots that needed fixing down to the metal, repaired, and primed. One sec I'll post some pics

Also it was just primed yesterday, sanded with 400 then with 800. The problems are fixed.

All i want to know, is does this rattle can primer have to come off?





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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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All i want to know, is does this rattle can primer have to come off?
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NO. Not unless you feel like starting over...that would suck. Just sand on it with six or eight hundred enough to get another layer of primer on there and use the good stuff. A layer or two of PPG primer/sealer and she's ready for the paint booth. Good luck bro.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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ok good because i put alot of work into this already, i'm going to spray with the good stuff, and paint
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