car 2001 integra
suspension koni-gc set up with 380f 450r springs
tires 205/50/15 rt-615
wheels 15x7 +27


front driver tire has a slice going down the middle from hitting the top of the fender and being sliced by the seam weld of the fender.

not sure of car height but theres about a 2finger gap on the front tires to fenders (so car isnt slammed or anything)

is this common on bumpy parking lot (autocross)
whats the best way to fix this?

grinder?
hammer?
longer bumpstops?

thanks in advance for any advice

dont wanna explicite up my new tires

 

your offset is way too low

You can either:
-Get new wheels
-Run much much higher spring rates + massage fenders

I'd opt for the first choice...

 

combination of too low and too soft. Add spring rate and/or raise it.

 

BIG F-ING HAMMER and beat them down!!!

or raise your car up

or get stiffer springs

 

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you don't know what you are talking about....offset has NOTHING to do with that!!!

the offset needed to put the wheels far enough out would be a -52 or more!

 

I had this same problem but I was running 17's I took it to a shop and had them cut it and re weld it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">combination of too low and too soft. Add spring rate and/or raise it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the car really isnt that low thats why this is suprising me

how stiff of springs should i be looking at then if 380 is to soft. i mean that substensialy stiffer than ots rates. should this be even happening?

so any have pics as to how they hammered them down??

 

i had the same issue, i just raised the car up a bit. took care of cutting the middle of the tire.

 

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you don't know what you are talking about....offset has NOTHING to do with that!!!

the offset needed to put the wheels far enough out would be a -52 or more!</TD></TR></TABLE>

If he was on stock rims and slammed I bet he wouldn't be rubbing on his fenders. +27 on stock fenders is going to put his tires past the wheel well

 

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If he was on stock rims and slammed I bet he wouldn't be rubbing on his fenders. +27 on stock fenders is going to put his tires past the wheel well</TD></TR></TABLE>



he's not rubbing the fenders DUDE. he's rubbing the PINCH WELD INSIDE.

hammer is good. 380 in the front really isn't that stiff especially for an autocross car. most of the STS 88-91 civics are running 400lbs in the front, and for a teg i'd say 450-475 would be good in the front. shoot, i was running 500 in the front of my CRX.. definately stiffer springs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
BIG F-ING HAMMER and beat them down!!!

or raise your car up

or get stiffer springs</TD></TR></TABLE>
x2

 

hamjammer X3

ill be beating the flat lip over the rear tires when i get home tonight

 

springs are going to be a defnite once funds come in if i go to like a 450 what should i run in the rear to keep the same ratio i have now? 550?

would that be fine on ots konis?

also temp solution of hammering them down, should i hammer in or out

would hammering in get in the way of the uca?

thanks

 

hammering it wont get it in the way of the uca. in or out doesnt matter

 

BFing hammer it is

for now anyways thanks for the help

going to look into some stiffer springs soon to run maybe 450f-550r sense i still will be running ots konis

heres a quick last one integra springs are 2.5"x6in front and 7in rear right?

 

hammer the weld so its not so sharp/pointy. and run stiffer springs. Thats what i did and no more problems. 12k front 14k rear daily by the way

 

I know you already did it, but +5 for hammering.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by azian21485 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your offset is way too low

You can either:
-Get new wheels
-Run much much higher spring rates + massage fenders

I'd opt for the first choice...</TD></TR></TABLE>

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you don't know what you are talking about....offset has NOTHING to do with that!!!

the offset needed to put the wheels far enough out would be a -52 or more!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, what the hell are you (azian21485) talking about? offset is the amount of distance the center hub of the wheel is either closer or away to the hub of the knuckle.
climb_on, your off set is fine

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BIG F-ING HAMMER and beat them down!!!

or raise your car up

or get stiffer springs</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you don't want to change your ride height or spring rates, you can fold over the seam/lip by using a sledge hammer. But don't grind off the seam-it'll comprmise it's structual integrity

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by climb_on &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">springs are going to be a defnite once funds come in if i go to like a 450 what should i run in the rear to keep the same ratio i have now? 550?

would that be fine on ots konis?

thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im running 550f with 450r with 1 finger gap in the front and two in the rear with new azenies and I was still cutting up the tire slightly at Sebring.

As far as spring lenghts i don't remember which lenghts i purchased but when i get home ill post up the lenghts.

Ali

 

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Im running 550f with 450r with 1 finger gap in the front and two in the rear with new azenies and I was still cutting up the tire slightly at Sebring.

As far as spring lenghts i don't remember which lenghts i purchased but when i get home ill post up the lenghts.

Ali</TD></TR></TABLE>

so i guess even with stiff *** springs its still a concern

i guess hammering is the best solution regardless of springs.

by the way 550f 450r on an integra....understeer?

 

Those springs aren't that stiff, roughly 10k 8k, but they are the most im willing to put up with on my daily.

This is my current ride height on the track wheels:


And to me the car felt pretty neutral and predictable to me, but then again I don't have much track experience (that was my 3rd event totaling 6 days and my first event with those rates and tires), this was also on stock LS sways.

Ali