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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:47 AM
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Default Al vs Ti vs SS retainers?

Which one is durable? I read some threads that Ti and Al retainers are good for racing only and after 15 000miles they are going to break. I will rev the engine over 10 000rpm adn the car is dual purpose.
P.S. Engine is B16A2
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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There are many variables to consider regarding retainer material and its life span. Not all titanium retainers quality and service life are equal. I have seen some wear out fairly quickly and others that hold up very well and show little signs of wear. A lot of it has to do with the springs and fitment of the retainer also.

As far as I now, supertech is the only company to offer aluminum retainers for b-vtecs. The only thing I know about aluminum retainers are that they come stock in several popular engines for example the mitsubishi evo 4G63 and Nissan QR25DE. They seem to have soft springs under them. Also, they are often used in motorcycle engines as well.

I have seen a few stock steel retainers break in half, but those were older parts that saw a lot of cycles and heat in their lifetime so its not a surprise.

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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Default Re: Al vs Ti vs SS retainers? (Runnerdown)

Ok... Supertech Aluminum retainers vs Crower Titanium retainers. Which is better? I am planing to use them with Skunk2 Pro valve springs. Are they compatible with stock retainers?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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if u have skunk2 valvesprings go with skunk retaineres. if you didnt have any of it i would say go with rocket SL valvetran or supertec gl. o and if u were looking for lonitivity then should have gone with some crower cromely retainers and springs here they hold 60k+ish any way ,,v, out and sorry bout the spelling
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PARADOX_sf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok... Supertech Aluminum retainers vs Crower Titanium retainers. Which is better? I am planing to use them with Skunk2 Pro valve springs. Are they compatible with stock retainers?</TD></TR></TABLE>

why not run the retainers that are supposed to be ran on there?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Runnerdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A lot of it has to do with the springs and fitment of the retainer also.


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i believe close to 99% of Ti ret wear is cause of that...

mix and match is usually bad... and then they wear.. Ti IS SHIAT! I TELL U ITS SHIAT...
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Default Re: Al vs Ti vs SS retainers? (Chris Tune)

If you are going to be reving the engine over 10,000 RPM's I would not worry about getting 15,000 miles out of it.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are going to be reving the engine over 10,000 RPM's I would not worry about getting 15,000 miles out of it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ain't that the truth. Seriously, what cam are you going to use to make power at that high of a rpm?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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Default Re: Al vs Ti vs SS retainers? (mar778c)

Not trying to ***** thread but does anyone have any experiance with the Brian Crower Steel Retainers?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Al vs Ti vs SS retainers? (mar778c)

Sk2 S2 pro.
I think that the best valves are omni's, best valve springs are Sk2 Pro, best retainers are crower's or supertech's. That's why i mix the parts.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PARADOX_sf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sk2 S2 pro.
I think that the best valves are omni's, best valve springs are Sk2 Pro, best retainers are crower's or supertech's. That's why i mix the parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

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hehehee
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PARADOX_sf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sk2 S2 pro.
I think that the best valves are omni's, best valve springs are Sk2 Pro, best retainers are crower's or supertech's. That's why i mix the parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why do you feel that way?

why think and not know?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Al vs Ti vs SS retainers? (PARADOX_sf)

What is the purpose of this engine?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Default Re: Al vs Ti vs SS retainers? (98vtec)

No one is better at everything!
I know about many broken Sk2 ti retainers.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PARADOX_sf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No one is better at everything!
I know about many broken Sk2 ti retainers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i haven't seen one yet.... i think im more involved in cars than u so i should have known about this... or maybe the mechanics in your area suck that bad no one knows for sure...
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PARADOX_sf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No one is better at everything!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PARADOX_sf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I think that the best</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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i have been using crower ti retiners and springs with no probs yet been using them since 03
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