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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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ok i have a bone stock(well i got a cold air intake)1990 civic std d15b1 with the stock ecu PM9 ok what i want to know is if i can put a diffrent ecu in to get more power or jsut some cheap bolt on upgrades that will give more power.i would love to do a b18c1 swap but i just dont have the cash.also if i can swap ecus will a jdm work when my car is usdm please any info will help thanks
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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browse around in the FAQ
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Thats the funniest question yet to be asked.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Default Re: i want more power (slo_civic_1990)

If u want a b18 swap, then don't waste your money on D series parts and save your money.

And no, leave your ecu alone
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slo_civic_1990 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i have a bone stock(well i got a cold air intake)1990 civic std d15b1 with the stock ecu PM9 ok what i want to know is if i can put a diffrent ecu in to get more power or jsut some cheap bolt on upgrades that will give more power.i would love to do a b18c1 swap but i just dont have the cash.also if i can swap ecus will a jdm work when my car is usdm please any info will help thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, don't listen to these folks. You can actually add 22HP VERY cheaply and VERY easily. Go to a junkyard and get a DX ECU and cam. For the sake of reducing wear, you should also get all the rocker arms from the motor the cam came from AND (VERY IMPORTANTLY) remember EXACTLY which rocker arm went where. Getting the DX exhaust manifold and under-the-body cat will also make a difference. If you go to a pick-a-part type place, you can virtually get all this stuff (except the cat, of course) for mere pennies. Then remove the restrictor plate from the throttle body. True, the 92HP you will end up with won't knock your socks off. But it will be a hell of alot better than the 70HP you had.

Or, if you are lucky and can find a complete SI, grab the ECU, cam, rockers, distributer, and intake manifold assembly and convert to MPFI. This will give the best gains possible without a swap - probably around 100-105HP. But it will cost slightly more, obviously.

One more thing. Getting rid of the four speed transmission also helps. Even a DX five speed is an improvement. Or better yet, get an SI transmission. I should also note that according to my 1988 Civic factory manual, the DX/LX sedan five speed has a shorter final drive than the hatchback/CRX DX five speed. So if you can't find an SI transmission, a sedan transmission is the next best thing.

Making the engine modifications, along with the transmission upgrade WON'T turn your car into a rocketship. But it WILL be an improvement. Furthermore, the money that you spend on this will hardly set you back when it comes to your ultimate goal of a GSR swap. And you will have a FAR more enjoyable car in the meantime.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Default Re: i want more power (StorminMatt)

x2 can u get the Si parts and use the ecu without using mpfi?
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scottso990 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">x2 can u get the Si parts and use the ecu without using mpfi?</TD></TR></TABLE>
NO! Getting the Si parts is getting the mpfi parts and the camshaft. Besides the mpfi is what will help increase power.

Your best bet(both of you) is to follow StorminMatt's advise,

All the info you need can be found in the FAQ section.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slo_civic_1990 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will a jdm work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Two easy steps to making more power:

Step one: https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch &lt;--Your best friend!

Step two: Savings account or stash or whatever...Save some money.

There you go.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Default Re: i want more power (StorminMatt)

thanks storminmatt for all your advice and to all others you should know that the only dumb qusetion is the one thats never asked
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Default Re: i want more power (slo_civic_1990)

search before asking though
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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normaley i do but i got ahead of myself this time but what can you do the qusetion has been asked thanks for the help guys(well some of you anyway)
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Default Re: i want more power (slo_civic_1990)

Look slo_civic, Welcome to Honda-Tech. This is the deal, this is how it is on any forum...noobs get bashed on everywhere. Don't

I have some questions for you now:

1. What are your goals for the car?
2. How mechanically inclined are you?
3. How much money do you have/want to spend?
4. Are you willing to do your homework on here and read the five billionty threads that cover all the questions you'll probably have?

Most of us here have learned from first hand experience/mistakes and spending hours upon hours reading through hundreds of pages of info.

If you set out to start a project, run into problems and truly can't find an answer here through searching...then by all means, start a thread.

Again...Welcome We are nice sometimes
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 04:07 AM
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Default Re: i want more power (slo_civic_1990)

We all want more power put the work into research and it can be yours. Please read the FAQ and the Rules.

Thanks
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