Well i am building my h22 motor up and was wondering if these choices are right and if not what would be better choices. i am trying to push about 240- 260 if possible.
I have H22A1

I have
Type S pistons
Cat exhaust
AEM Brutal intake
DC Cermaic headers


Getting
Exedy Clutch kit and flywheel stage 1
ARP Studs for head
Skunk 2 intake mainfold and TB
ACL bearings
AEM pressure regulator and pump
Blox Cam gears or AEM not sure
Crower stage 1 camshafts
New valve springs and retainers
tuning and machine work of honing


what other things does the masses feel i should get
to help me get my numbers. i am trying to do it for
under 2,000


Modified by crazes at 7:59 PM 3/10/2008

 

drop 800 on a better header.

 

There's no way that setup will get even close to 240-260whp. If that's your goal, you need to totally rethink your build.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Import RP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's no way that setup will get even close to 240-260whp. If that's your goal, you need to totally rethink your build.</TD></TR></TABLE> I agree.

 

you will need a bigger budget then under $2000 to 240-260whp

 

I am aiming for 240...with mahle 12.5:1 OS pistons, slightly milled head, ported head, crower stage 3 cams, port matched ksunk manifold, 68mm throttle body, and a prospeed header and Hondata s300 with e85...and honestly i will feel really lucky if I make 240 whp!

 

good luck buddy..ur gonna need alil mroe help that listed. i made 236/165 on a lower reading dynojet

87.25 mahle pistons 11:5
pro 1 headpack
flat face valve
camp 1320 header
70mm skunk 2 exhaust
hondata s300
no portwork
skunk pro intake manifold port match 68 mm TB
balance shaft eliminator kit

gonna do a velocity intake...play with the cam gears. was on a $20 cheapy intake. cam gears at 0-0. hoping for 245+

 

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245- i feel that its doable.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crazes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well i am building my h22 motor up and was wondering if these choices are right and if not what would be better choices. i am trying to push about 240- 260 if possible.
I have H22A1

I have
Type S pistons
Cat exhaust doesnt tell me much
AEM Brutal intake no.
DC Cermaic headersno.


Getting
Exedy Clutch kit and flywheel stage 1
ARP Studs for head
Skunk 2 intake mainfold and TB
ACL bearings
AEM pressure regulator and pump not needed
Blox Cam gears or AEM not sure
Crowler stage 1 camshafts crowler?
New valve springs and retainers
tuning and machine work of honing


what other things does the masses feel i should get
to help me get my numbers. i am trying to do it for
under 2,000 </TD></TR></TABLE>

my comments are in bold.

that setup might get 200whp on a high reading dyno.

2000 could be spent in just machine work.

 

I would ditch the crower cams and go with skunk2 or cranes

 

as was already said throughout this thread - I think you need to rethink your build and budget.


Type S pistons - not bad for a street build but will only be around 11:1
Cat exhaust - hopefully 2.5- 3 inches
AEM Brutal intake - not even sure what that is- hopefully its a 3 inch intakeDC Cermaic headers- ditch this asap. spend a little money on a decent header. the camp1320 makes power and isnt that expensive or at least mod the collector

Getting
Exedy Clutch kit and flywheel stage 1- good for the build you have in mind but not for 240-
ARP Studs for head
Skunk 2 intake mainfold and TB - I like mine
ACL bearings
AEM pressure regulator and pump
Blox Cam gears or AEM not sure
Crowler stage 1 camshafts - going to need a bigger cam than that
New valve springs and retainers
tuning and machine work of honing - Tuning using what?


I really dont see the 2000 dollar budget happening bro, unless you have some great hookups. I would say you are shooting for 200.

 

just some fyi about the camp header...



difference between ebay header and camp header

camp is red

 

lol i retract my statement. . . .

 

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that setup might get 200whp on a high reading dyno.

2000 could be spent in just machine work.</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed

 

I'd have to agree with most of the comments in this thread.

If you're interested, I have a brand new set of Crower Stage 2 H22 cams with the modified primary lobes that I'd like to sell. I can't use them in the race class I'm in.

 

thanks for all the advice but can you give me ideas of what to get besides the 1340 anyone on what parts or maybe other things i mean if i have to spend some more i got it but i mean at least give some ideas of what to do.also how much for it crower 2

Modified by crazes at 7:00 PM 3/10/2008


Modified by crazes at 7:58 PM 3/10/2008

 

<FONT SIZE="5">crower</FONT>

sorry but we do not tend to spoon feed people. It does you no good to listen to people spout of brand names and you still have no clue what you are getting yourself into.

 

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Sorry

 

Just a comment about the camp header.

Bear with me, I seem to be getting more sight challenged everyday.
If I understand the colors correctly, the red graph is the camp header and the pink graph is the ebay header.

If that is the case the ebay header is the better performer of the two for this specific motor.

Now on a motor which can really perform 210+, the ebay header will definitely throttle the motor. In that case, the camp header is hands down better.

 

lol, but nothing beats you telling the the icy hot stunna you wanted to punch him.

 

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Just a comment about the camp header.

Bear with me, I seem to be getting more sight challenged everyday.
If I understand the colors correctly, the red graph is the camp header and the pink graph is the ebay header.

If that is the case the ebay header is the better performer of the two for this specific motor.

Now on a motor which can really perform 210+, the ebay header will definitely throttle the motor. In that case, the camp header is hands down better.</TD></TR></TABLE>


The motor has Pro1 cams and tuning by xenocron
and it cracked at the flange....

that graph tells me that the engine is much more efficient with the ebay header.....which is a rude awakening

 

i made good power with my camp1320

 

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yes you did

really baffled me when tin switched to the ebay header and made so much more power.

 

ok genius i am not trying to through names brand out there cause i am not going to spend a grand on jun cams. i don't have the money for those. i am just try to get ideas so i can make the most bang for my buck. i want to make as much power that is possible for my budget that's why i am asking for opinions on things. cause i could get a jdm cams and almost have the same dim. as a stage 1. i am just trying to do this build a price that i can offered. no like i was saying does anybody have opinions on things that might help me out? i was maybe also thinking of doing porting polishing you know head work

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crazes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok genius i am not trying to through names brand out there cause i am not going to spend a grand on jun cams. i don't have the money for those. i am just try to get ideas so i can make the most bang for my buck. i want to make as much power that is possible for my budget that's why i am asking for opinions on things. cause i could get a jdm cams and almost have the same dim. as a stage 1. i am just trying to do this build a price that i can offered. no like i was saying does anybody have opinions on things that might help me out? i was maybe also thinking of doing porting polishing you know head work</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let me try to save you a little time and frustration, search the all-motor dyno thread at the top of this forum. It will give you better ideal about part combinations and output.

Looking at your build list, it just did not seem well thought out. You have stuff there but it is not really a power adding combination. Plus, you were talking about 240 whp which is serious build territory for a all motor car.

For example, you want 240 whp from a H22.
Here's how I would start:
ported head 320+cfm@28 in of water
mahle piston 11.5 CR
Custom header
Pro3 cams and valvetrain
Carillo or Pauter lightweight rods
balance shaft removal kit
Euro accord or Sk2 pro IM
Adjustable cam gears
new bearings 2 thou+ clearance
new oil pump
etc.


Modified by mar778c at 11:25 PM 3/10/2008