I have put a spec3 buddyclub cams in my b16a2 with all upgraded valvetrain components.My ecu has already been chipped.So the problem is that there are too much black smoke at the exhaust and i can't detect what makes it to smoke black.

 

its probaly 1 of your pistons

 

ru still running a cat? i installed a test pipe and now i get black smoke when i get on it bc theres nothing cleaning up the fumes

 

do a diy compression test and check your coolant's level at the reservior tank, if it decreases/disappears fast.

 

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That makes no sense.
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A cat converts harmful invisible gas into something less harmful. If you have alot of black smoke without it something is wrong.
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Why? He said BLACK smoke, not white.

Anyway, it sounds like you are running really rich. Have you had it tuned? Buying and installing a chip will do nothing unless it is tuned for your car(not your buddies or someone with the same setup).

 

X2 on the tuning being off

Black smoke just means you are running rich, which you probably are. You need to get THAT motor tuned with THOSE cams, not just run a generic basemap.

 

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no, the black smoke is a product of an issue inside your motor

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Anyway, it sounds like you are running really rich. Have you had it tuned? Buying and installing a chip will do nothing unless it is tuned for your car(not your buddies or someone with the same setup). </TD></TR></TABLE>

x2

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by electron_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">X2 on the tuning being off

Black smoke just means you are running rich, which you probably are. You need to get THAT motor tuned with THOSE cams, not just run a generic basemap.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with all of you,but before i installed these cams it never smoked black.but the chip was already installed.I've not even use an FPR,so why i'm running rich fuel.The injectors are all stock i.e stock psi.I can't understand thoroughly.I only put a pair of cams.Do you think the engine needs more air or ignition to burn the fuel.And i also have a problem my ignition coil is on the way to die.When the engine becomes too hot,or when driving in a warm atmosphere,it starts misfiring,is this the cause of black smoke?(poor ignition).I would appreciate if you help me.Thanks.

 

you should retune when installing cams. Your chip, is it just a basemap? or was it tuned before for a different setup?

 

also since you put in sme more aggresive cams did you also do a valve adjustment i put some skunk2 stage 2 and had to redo my valve adjustment

 

it a chipped P08 ecu.The chipped has been program to work like a stock p30 basemap.Because my P30 ecu is damaged.Thats why i ordered a chipped P08 ecu.So should i remove the chip and installing a hondata s300 like that?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by serio_ENDLESS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also since you put in sme more aggresive cams did you also do a valve adjustment i put some skunk2 stage 2 and had to redo my valve adjustment</TD></TR></TABLE>
Its been a week when i installed these cams.So i need to wait for 500miles to make the adjustment.I'm doubting my ignition coil or maybe less air is entering the engine for the cause of black smoke.

 

you are running to rich. the high llift of the cams is allowing more fuel to go into the cylinders. there is nothing wrong. remember black is gas white is water and blue is oil.

 

Black smoke is richness/soot from too much fuel, generally. Its not a terrible thing, better to run rich than lean. Get a tune.

 

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wonder how many times hes gonna get told that til he realizes his chipped p08 needs to be re-tuned for his new cams.

 

one more....

black smoke = fuel. you're not burning it all... you need more air per fuel... a tune can do that for ya

 

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Its been a week when i installed these cams.So i need to wait for 500miles to make the adjustment.I'm doubting my ignition coil or maybe less air is entering the engine for the cause of black smoke.</TD></TR></TABLE>

UM NO! You need to do a valve adjustment when you first install the cams, then readjust after 500 miles.

Whoever told you not to valve lash when you do a cam install should be kicked in the nuts

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baulum &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it a chipped P08 ecu.The chipped has been program to work like a stock p30 basemap.Because my P30 ecu is damaged.Thats why i ordered a chipped P08 ecu.So should i remove the chip and installing a hondata s300 like that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah you shouldn't be running that aggressive of a cam setup on a stock p30 basemap. Odds are somethings gonna get messed up. Since the ecu is already chipped take it to a reputable tuning shop and they can tune and install a new eprom chip with maps for your current setup. I can almost guarantee that is your problem. Alot of things are going to come into play when you swap cams you may need to look over your ignition system to make sure it's set up to handle that much fuel. i.e. your spark plugs type and or gap of them as well as your overall engine timing. Take it easy on the motor or don't even drive it until you get it tuned or you may suffer some serious damage to your motor. You don't need to upgrade to the s300 unless you feel like it. It's a lot better tuning tool in the long run, but you can use a socketed ecu, you just need a chip tuned for your setup that has been dynoed in your vehicle.

 

i have an idea...
take it to an experienced tuning shop!

o wait that makes too much sense nvm.

 

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take it to an experienced tuning shop!

o wait that makes too much sense nvm.

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A lot of stuff usually makes sense, it just never gets put in the bank.

 

I appreciate your ideas.Thanks.But in my country we do neither have a dyno nor a ecu tuning shop.I can only order from US.Concerning the valve adjustment,it has already been done when the mechanic installed the cams.But i've to adjust it again after some rides.Firstly,lets come back to the chip tuning.Get me a reputable chipping shop from websites so that i can directly deal with.Secondly,my ignition coil continues to deteriorate after changing 2 ignition coils.Is this normal?

 

Should i adjust the idle also,because it vibrates at 800rpm and sometimes even turn off.

 

You put huge cams in a motor with a generic chipped ECU and stock fuel system. This is a recipe for disaster. It seems that you don't understand how camshafts work - if you did, you wouldn't be asking us why there's black smoke, a poor idle and misfiring going on.

Huge cams ingest huge amounts of fuel. If you're running stock plugs and an ECU that doesn't understand that you've upgraded the cams, you're going to be burning through a whole lot more gasoline than normal, hence the black smoke. Also, you're most likely fouling your plugs (misfire) and the mechanical timing hasn't been optimized for daily driving.

Buddy Club SpecIII camshafts are race-items. If you didn't have access to race-tuning equipment - a dyno, a tuner and significant money - you basically just paid to make your car a slow, broken piece of ****. Having been on this site, you should have known better.

Get it tuned or the problems will never, ever go away. And no, you can't "order out" for a chip that's going to work. Every car is different.

 

So what are the steps which i can go through?Hondata s300,pro intake manifold,big injectors....?You are right,i can't notice big power with the cams,mainly during VTEC transition?Do i lack the optimum vtec point with this chip?It kicks at 5800 rpm.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baulum &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what are the steps which i can go through?Hondata s300,pro intake manifold,big injectors....?You are right,i can't notice big power with the cams,mainly during VTEC transition?Do i lack the optimum vtec point with this chip?It kicks at 5800 rpm.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no you bonehead, you lack a tuned [freak]ing ECU. an intake manifold isn't going to make any difference and that is something you can just order from any website. same with the injectors, you can just order those from any website that sells them.

you don't have ANY shops where you live that can tune an ECU?? did you actually call around and ask?? i doubt it since you didn't think the ECU was the problem.