right now i have negative camber on my car. i on eibach pro kit progessive spring and kyb shock. my front has a -1.0 camber and the rear is around -2.8 or so. My inisde of my side wall is being eatten. Anyone know if it the camber probelm or something else. i also bought the BLOX RACING camber kit. thinkin about installin it soon. thansk for the help..

 

install the camber kit... but make sure you have it aligned as soon as its installed or else youll have some steering issues... but id say your camber issue is whats eating your tires up

 

okay thanks. cause i was reading other form from this site and people were sayin sometihng about the toe and the blox camber kit not good? something about the nut or something dies out in like 3 year or so... i dunoz.

 

first off did you get your car aligned?

camber wont kill tires..it might shorten overall life by a thousand or two miles.

i have way worst camber. My rears look like this / \ and i have been running the same tire for 3 years no problem and pretty even wear.

you dont need a camber kit unless you are autox all the time.

 

That's interesting because my friend took his car into Les Schwab and they said they couldn't fix his alignment issues without a camber kit in front/rear lol..

 

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every place i take mine too always tells me they cant fix camber without a kit yes...but all you really need is for yoru toes to be aligned to factory specs.

 

well when i took mine, they gace me a sheet with that stat. the toe was at zero or something. so i dunoz.

 

Is this a joke? My god.

 

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if your toe is at zero then you shouldnt be eating through your tires.

how long did you take till you got an alignment?

 

i put shim's between the rear camber and the inner fender on all the cars i ever dumped..

 

i got my aligment like couple of months back. like 4-5 month ago.

 

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then you shouldnt have any tire wear issues...the place must not of done a very good job.

 

Take your car somewhere else for an alignment. Shops can't completely fix -2.8* of camber but they can bias it closer to zero unless the adjustment is already maxed out.

If your toe is at 0 then you shouldn't be killing your tires.

btw, I just reread what you wrote... you said your sidewalls? Are your tires rubbing your fender wells? Tires too big? Big offset on wheels? Poorly inflated tires? It doesn't sound like the drop is affecting you there.

 

As said above, camber shouldnt eat your tyres, toe is a much bigger factor

when i first lowered my coupe i found out when i got the car aligned that the front wheels were on -3 degrees, and the wear on the tyres is perfectly even

i cant see how tyre rubbing would damage the sidewalls though, unless youre rubbing off the chassis really badly :S

check tyres pressure etc?? cause if you run with nearly flat tyres then that will cause some damage to the sidewalls

 

well right now im on konig helium. The inside of the sidewall is like bald.... i dunoz. im on 195/50/ R15. i dunoz wut the offset for helium though.

 

i am on 205/50/15 Rota Grids slammed...tucking at least 2 inchs of rubber all teh way around...no camber kit

tire wears even...you need to take it to a better alignmetn shop.

 

ya that what i thought.. but oh well.. i pick up the camber kit already.
but the last aligment it said
initial specification final
min. max.
FRONT: CASTER
left 1.29 0.66 2.66 1.63
right 1.43 0.66 2.66 1.40
CAMBER
left -0.92 -1.00 1.00 -0.89
right -1.26 -1.00 1.00 -1.35
TOE
left -0.21 -0.04 0.12 0.06
right 0.32 -0.04 0.12 0.05
total 0.11 -0.08 0.24 0.11
REAR:
CAMBER
left -2.30 -2.00 0.00 -2.29
right -2.32 -2.00 0.00 -2.50
TOE
left 0.17 0.04 0.12 0.10
right 0.21 0.04 0.12 0.11
total 0.38 0.08 0.24 0.21




Modified by EJ6_Sedan at 9:38 PM 3/3/2008

 

Those numbers aren't too bad. I would check the tire pressure. Do you regularly rotate your tires?

 

i do them every 5k mile.. tire pressure are at 35

 

I dropped mine about 1.5in all the way around and the camber is way off on the back tires of mine too. The inside of the tires have lumps where they are setting unevenly. Every place i have taken it to says that i need to adjust the camber, but can't without the part. I have the part and just haven't got around to putting it on, but it is really annoying to drive as i can hear the thumping of the knots all the way around the tires. Everyone told me that just lowering it and having it aligned was fine and the rear camber kit was not needed, but apparently not. I've been to three or four different places to have it aligned and all of them say it is aligned perfectly. So apparently the camber does have something to do with it. I don't know what you all have been doing, but not having the camber fixed has eaten my tires up. Thanks to all of you that have said changing the camber is not necessary, you are all completely wrong.

 

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A 1.5" drop isn't going to screw your camber up enough to eat your tires, buddy. That's maybe -1.5 degrees of camber in the rear, -2.0* tops, assuming all your control arms are the correct ones... and that's not really significant. I have camber kits on both front and rear, and I specifically request -1.0* of camber in the rear to help with handling. No tire bubbles here, nor uneven wear.

EXCESSIVE camber can result in tire wear, but -2* won't do it. Check your toe angle. Toe in or toe out and your rear end will be rolling like it has pigeon toes (toe in). That off angle of rotation is what eats tires.

 

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Camber doesn't really wear tires very much. With those settings, you should be fine on tire wear if you just get an alignment. Toe is what really eats up tires. Toe changes when you change any other angle or adjustment.

Toe is HUGE tire wearing angle. Get new tires. Get it aligned. (in that order). You cannot properly align a car that allready has unevenly worn or damaged tires.

You can use the blox kit for the back since you allready bought it. It may help you a little. -2.8 degrees is a little on the agressive side.

Either way, get your toe fixed. If you put on the camber kit, have it adjusted only at a good alignment shop. Dont eye ball it.

If you do change the camber angle ever...you will have to get it aligned again.

Toe will change as a result of any other suspension change.

 

ya im take it to someone to install it for me. then to the aligment shop. they said he had been doing for a long time.. haha. i dunoz cause i dink it the camber that is wearing my tires. cause my toe out and in are at 0. so i dunoz haha. but im do camber kit. but i dont know what tires to get.. it between FALKEN ZE-912 or the KUMHO AST (KU25).. hahah.. dont really race or anything hah. but ya

 

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I really doubt that -1.0 front and -2.2ish rear would wear your tires unless you're doing a lot of burn outs.

Even then -1.0 is pretty small. To give you an example, a GSR's far range for acceptable camber as per alignment machine guidelines is about -2 rear.

Your toe is probably off..or your suspension components are bad..or you're using crappy tires...or you do a lot of burn outs.

 

im using the falken ze-512 lol