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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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My friend has a 97 Integra GS-R and wants to get an aftermarket intake. I've done some looking around and seen the different setups - "icebox", short ram, cold air, front mount intercooler type, and the whale ***** thingy. I know the cold air and front mount intercooler type are out of the question because he doesn't want to risk sucking up water. So that leaves the icebox, short ram, and whale *****. After researching the icebox setup I wasn't really impressed by it. For a short ram setup, the AEM and K&N seemed to be very popular choices. The K&N intake has a nice heat shield for it, not to mention it's plastic, not metal, so it won't heat soak as bad. The whale ***** thing I have no idea about, but it's not as nice looking as the short ram setups. What are your guy's opinions on this?
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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sri. the cai is nothing but an overpriced piece of pipe. i would just get an sri. search intakes and you'll probably find alot of discussion's on this topic.
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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I got an Injen Cold air intake and man i love it. It screams bro. Its defiantly worth the money.
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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all an intake is is a pipe, and you dont want water going through it
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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I'm pretty sure my friend is set on an AEM intake for this one, so I guess that's what he's going to go with. He wants the polished look. I told him the K&N would be a good choice also, but I guess he thinks the polyethelyne won't hold up as well as the aluminum. I liked the idea of the heatshield and K&N filter and the plastic wouldn't heat soak as much on the K&N. He's also really interested in the Injen intake for some reason too, but I'm not sure why. I guess he just wants looks more than performance. The whale ***** is out of the question since it's so expensive and doesn't seem like it works at all.

Now he's asking me about porting and polishing his intake manifold. I know that there's very minimal gains to be had doing this and that increasing the TB and intake manifold size can actually decrease power. I know also that the GSR uses a dual stage intake and that it'd be difficult to port correctly. I know there's a Blox and Skunk 2 aftermarket intake manifold made for these cars, but wasn't sure if there were any others made. I also know the Blox and Skunk2 manifolds are exactly the same besides the logo on it too. What do you guys think about porting the stock manifold or would it be better to switch to an aftermarket one?

Nextly, I keep reading about velocity stacks. I've seen what they look like but I don't understand how it's supposed to work. Can anyone explain this to me?
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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here's a ?. does he want to buy two sri? cause he's going to have to decide cause of the way the gsr's manifold sits. throttle body on the bottom like the gsr, or throttle body up top like skunk2/blox? the piping well be longer and bent to fit a stock gsr manifold.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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in all honesty tell your friend to buy an intake off ebay and then put an aem or a k&n filter on it, all the piping is the same, its the filtration you have to worry about

and all a velocity stack is suppose to do is let you pack more air into your intake cause of the bigger inlet and tapering walls
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Icebox would be the best setup for intakes but it's rediculiously expensive for a ARC/Comptech icebox.

Honestly, I'd get a generic cold air intake filter and heat wrap it and slap on a K&N filter.

I've had an Injen SRI before and this Aem CAI I have now hands down feels a bit better.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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The eBay intakes generally don't fit as well as the name brand ones do, I've seen this first hand. I've already said that I won't be going with a CAI because he doesn't want to have to worry about sucking up moisture or un-wanted debris into the filter. The icebox looks like nothing more than a CAI setup and is stupidly expensive. I told him his best bet would be the K&N due to the polyethelyne construction and heat shield but he's pretty well set on the polished. And since he wants the polished look, he's not going to want to wrap it with header wrap. I'm pretty sure he's stuck on the AEM setup.

Last time I checked the GSR manifold and the aftermarket manifolds had the TB in the same place - on the left side of the intake manifold. I read quite a few interesting articles about the aftermarket intake manifolds too. They don't have the secondary plates in them that the stock GSR manifold does. Some people were saying that you lose low end power switching to the aftermarket setup, but a lot of people also said that you don't lose any power, but gain a lot in the top end. Who has actually used the aftermarket manifolds?

About the velocity stack - I can't imagine that being able to pack more air into the intake is going to help, mostly because the 3" intake tube is already pretty large for a 4 cylinder engine. There's only so much air an engine can draw in, so I'm not sure how the velocity stacks would even help a 4 cylinder, especially something as small as a 1.8 liter engine.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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guys, its an intake. Hp gains are minimal unless you motor is crazy built, and then you would have a custom intake. 1. Buy a drop in K&N filter. 2. buy one that you think looks good, and put on a K&N filter.

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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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V2 aem cold ar intake
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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CAi is gonna be a little louder....prolly not much of performance difference between the two
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cdntegintx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Go Mugen</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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stock airbox with the 4" icebox mod and a K&N filter.... there is a dyno showing it makes more power then a CAI from ebay.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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My friend ended up going with a AEM setup, so that's all said and done. Now I'm starting to look into throttle bodies and intake manifolds more. Any suggestions? Keep in mind this is a GSR.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gofastgokart99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CAi is gonna be a little louder....prolly not much of performance difference between the two</TD></TR></TABLE>

CAI is louder than short ram?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tweek_boii &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">V2 aem cold ar intake</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey is your last name Dumas? How many times does he have to repeat that his friend does not want a CAI?
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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I have Apex'i intake Kit on my R, its very nice, ppl get scarred away from it because it $100 and its basically just a filter, but its def. worth the money. I had a injen intake on my GSR motor and it worked great also Im pleased with both. Tell your friend he can buy my Injen intake I have it posted

As for best intake though, you just cant beat a real mugen
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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i say ebay one they all do the same thing its cheaper too
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean3two3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i say ebay one they all do the same thing its cheaper too</TD></TR></TABLE>

Whats the difference between an AEM short ram and an ebay intake besides brand name and price?
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Whats the difference between an AEM short ram and an ebay intake besides brand name and price? </TD></TR></TABLE>

the filter
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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if you read above he said somthing about ebay not having correct fitment and the throttle body on gsr is DOWn not UP

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SWE3TDUDE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


CAI is louder than short ram?


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Well from my experience I would say yes. I had a CAI on my LS Integra, then i had a run in with a deer and it broke the lower hanger. So i had to switch to SRI untill i got a new intake. The CAI is a much deeper/louder tone IMO. SRI sounds choked up and not very deep. I doubt there is much of a difference performance wise(if any).
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Keep the stock air box and just mod the lower intake silencer. It works just like the comptech iceman set up.
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