Going to run the JDM type r 16'' wheels on my 01 Type R. Just need to know what tire size to get. I think 205/45/16? Is that correct?

 

yes

 

205/45/16 or 215/45/16 will both be fine.

JDM ITR comes stock with 215/45/16, if that matters to you.

 

215-225/45-16 front and 195-50-16 or 205-45-16 rear. just for me. like it staggered. but most will agree with front setting to all four wheels 215-225/45-16's.

 

The only reason to run a 225/45/16 on the front is if you need the extra width for autox or HPDE, and even at that not a lot of good street tires come in a 225/45/16. I'd rather use the Azenis 215/45/16 or the RE01-R 205/45/16.

 

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Most tires come in one size or the other, not both. So decide on the tire you want to use, and get whichever of these sizes it comes in. The supersticky RT-615 comes in 215/45-16. Tires available in 205/45-16 include the supersticky RE-01R, the top-of-the-line Goodyear F1 GS-D3, "bang for the buck" summer tires like the Kumho SPT* and Fuzion ZRi, and the all-season Kumho ASX (if you need to use these all year round, in snow as well as warm weather).

*The Tire Rack has trouble keeping the SPT in stock in 205/45-16; if they don't have it in stock, tires-easy.com usually does.

 

I am going to try out 205-45-16 BS RE-01R since 215 does not give you any good choices in this country

 

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You don't think the Falken Azenis RT-615 is a good choice?

 

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You don't think the Falken Azenis RT-615 is a good choice?
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Pricewise it's a much better choice and it gives 95% of the grip that the RE01R does.

 

For an overall good tire, get the Kumo Ecsta SPTs! Best bang for your buck.

 

for EXPO 8 - 615's or RE-01R's ????????
are te bridgestones really worth the extra 60 bux a piece? and would i even notice?

 

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The SPT is a great tire, but it's really a different kind of tire from the RE-01R or RT-615. On the track, there's no comparison; the RE-01R or RT-615 will be much faster. Unless it's raining, in which case the SPT will be much faster. The SPT is much more of a great "daily driving" tire - decent dry performance, AND it's excellent in rain, AND it lasts a long time (maybe 3 times as many miles as the RE-01R or RT-615) AND it's cheap. But if you plan to do a lot of track events with the tires (or, if you drive like that on the street - safely, I hope), then wet traction and treadlife don't matter as much, and the RE-01R or RT-615 are better choices. Different tires doing different things well.

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are te bridgestones really worth the extra 60 bux a piece? and would i even notice?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you don't have a lot of track experience, it will probably not make any difference whatsoever, since you will be constrained by your ability, not by the performance of the tires.

And if you DO have a lot of track experience, you are probably driving on R compounds anyway.

But if you're still interested in reading about the differences in performance between the two, you can read this.

$.02

 

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The SPT is a great tire, but it's really a different kind of tire from the RE-01R or RT-615. On the track, there's no comparison; the RE-01R or RT-615 will be much faster. Unless it's raining, in which case the SPT will be much faster. The SPT is much more of a great "daily driving" tire - decent dry performance, AND it's excellent in rain, AND it lasts a long time (maybe 3 times as many miles as the RE-01R or RT-615) AND it's cheap. But if you plan to do a lot of track events with the tires (or, if you drive like that on the street - safely, I hope), then wet traction and treadlife don't matter as much, and the RE-01R or RT-615 are better choices. Different tires doing different things well.

If you don't have a lot of track experience, it will probably not make any difference whatsoever, since you will be constrained by your ability, not by the performance of the tires.

And if you DO have a lot of track experience, you are probably driving on R compounds anyway.

But if you're still interested in reading about the differences in performance between the two, you can read this.

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thanks for your 2 cents. I had read that article before, but i still ask which would be better because they are comparing two completely different size tires. isn't it true , the lesser sidewall will be an all around better tire? i know the overall diameter is the same but there are other majr factors comparing the two sizes. weight and sidewall height being a good example.

secondly. we have established it would make no difference for my BUT, now what size falken do i go with?
16x7 inch rpf1's +35 offset.

 

Good info nsxtasy

 

wow this thread really took off. Yeah I just want to get some good tires for daily drivin. Not going to be doin auto x or anything. Dont feel like spending 120+ per tire for dailys that no one will notice. I got brand new yoko es100 on now with my 15'' type r wheels which are $75 per wheel, and i think they will do fine if i keep the wheels.

 

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you're purchasing based on looks ?

SERIOUSLY?

 

not at all....es100 are $75 per tire compared to other tires that $100 plus when i drive the car 5-6 months out of the year. I can find better ways to spend my money then put it into tires that cheaper tires will do just the job for my needs.

 

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Actually, the tire sizes are the same. The nominal tire sizes (the numbers on the sidewall) are different, but the actual tire sizes (measuring them) are the same. (Manufacturers have some flexibility in what size to label a tire as.)

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Not necessarily. Just like the wider treadwidth won't necessarily be an all-around better (performing) tire. Usually, differences in tire compound and tread design between two different models make a bigger difference than treadwidth and sidewall height. If you're comparing two sizes of the same model of tire, then the dimensional differences may make a difference.

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16x7 inch rpf1's +35 offset. </TD></TR></TABLE>

215/45-16.

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For daily driving - remember, this is a different type of tire than the Azenis/RE-01R, we're talking about tires that last longer and do better in rain - I think you can do better with the Kumho SPT, Fuzion ZRi, or Avon Tech M500 than the ES100. All three of these are cheaper than the ES100, perform the same on dry pavement, and perform better in rain (the ES100 is actually pretty good in rain, but these others are better).

 

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Actually, the tire sizes are the same. The nominal tire sizes (the numbers on the sidewall) are different, but the actual tire sizes (measuring them) are the same. (Manufacturers have some flexibility in what size to label a tire as.)

Not necessarily. Just like the wider treadwidth won't necessarily be an all-around better (performing) tire. Usually, differences in tire compound and tread design between two different models make a bigger difference than treadwidth and sidewall height. If you're comparing two sizes of the same model of tire, then the dimensional differences may make a difference.

215/45-16.


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i love you.

 

I purchased some 215/45/16 RT-615's from discounttiredirect.com for $368 shipped to my door.

 

back from the extreme dead but im trying to be budgeted about my tires and I have 3 brand new 205/55/16's yoko es's how bad do you guys think they will rub on my db8 sedan lowered on tokico springs? its about a 2.5" drop all around

 

I'll revitalize this again. What are the current choices that people are running? Many of the listed choices have disappeared in the past year.

I'm seeking a tire that has good grip, but doesn't suddenly let go. I have read that is a potential issue with the Falken Azenis.

 

2 of those chioces listed are still current, Azenis 615 and Bridgestone RE-01R. Add to that the newer Kumho XS which was made to directly compete with the 615 and at the same price point. Hopefully the Dunlop direzza star spec Z1 gets offered in this size soon too.

In my experience with the 615 at AutoX and HPDE it is very predictable. I haven't experienced a sudden drop off with them. They give a very predictable drop off that is easily manageable with throttle control.

 

The Falken Azenis doesn't "suddenly let go". However, within the past couple of years, several competitors have introduced tires that are even stickier, and some are competitive in price. Here they are with some of the best prices, starting with the stickiest IMHO and going down the list (even stickier is the Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec but it doesn't come in a 16" size for the ITR):

Bridgestone Potenza RE01R 205/45-16 $172 at Tire Rack (no, that is not a typo)
Kumho Ecsta XS 215/45-16 $99 at Tire Rack, $107* at Discount Tire Direct
Toyo R1R 205/45-16 $127.59 at TireDeals4Less.com
Falken Azenis RT-615 215/45-16 $99 at Vulcan Tire, $106* at Discount Tire Direct

For those with 15" wheels, the Dunlop and Toyo are available in 195/55-15; the Kumho, Toyo, and Falken are available in 205/50-15.

If I were buying this kind of tire for my own ITR, I would choose the Kumho XS in 215/45-16 for 16" wheels, and the Dunlop Star Spec in 195/55-15 for 15" wheels.

Caveat emptor - these are extremely sticky tires and are perfect for those who use them not only on the street, but for an occasional autocross or track event. However, they don't last as long as many other tires; the Azenis generally gets 10-12K miles, and the others may get slightly more but don't expect more than 20K and you won't be disappointed. Also they're generally not as good as many other tires in rain - not terrible, but not great. One factor that aggravates both these factors (treadlife and rain grip) is that some of these tires have less tread depth when new (8/32" rather than the 10/32" typical of most street tires).

If treadlife and/or rain traction is a concern for you, and you're willing to trade off a bit of dry traction for improvements in those areas, you may want to consider the Yokohama S.drive ($93 in 205/45-16 at Tire Rack, $98* at Discount Tire Direct) or Fuzion ZRi ($88 in 205/45-16 at Tire Rack). And all of these are summer tires, not suitable for use in snow; if you need to use the same tire year round, in occasional snow and winter as well as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year, you'll need an all-season tire such as the Kumho Ecsta ASX ($79 in 205/45-16 at Tire Rack, $89* at Discount Tire Direct).

*Discount Tire Direct prices include FREE SHIPPING. Shipping typically costs $10-15/tire from the other retailers listed.

 

Good information.

I wish Tirerack sold Falken tires so that they had comparisons.