Black-Piston
Blue-nut
Red- top washer
Green-bushings
Olive-top hat
Red-bottom washer
Yellow-bumpstop

What In hell is wrong here?! Every time I hit a bump or crack in the road, it knocks around in the top hat. This is the second set of illuminas.

Im going to kill someone.

 

This is everyones chance to hate on the hater....LOL....tell me what I have done wrong.

I can't expletiveing stand this noise anymore. I have taken the assembly apart three times and cannot figure out what is wrong.

 

are the bushings fucked up at all?? is there play when its assembled.

i'm probably not helping much but...i'll try to keep you up top.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .Manny. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the bushings fucked up at all?? is there play when its assembled.

i'm probably not helping much but...i'll try to keep you up top. </TD></TR></TABLE>


No play that I can tell when assembled and off the car....

Its all brand new hardware that came with the dampers...ie:

Bushings and bushing pin, top washer and nut.

 

The best way to be a dick is to know the answer and not tell.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tippyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The best way to be a dick is to know the answer and not tell. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Please Tippy, If you know, share.

 

I remember your last thread, and did you ever cut your bump stops? it seems like one thing you havent tried yet.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alscrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Why is it so hard to understand you need to cut the bump stop in half?????????????? </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Yes. Bumpstops cut.

 

Are you 100% sure that the play is in the mounts? If so, have you tried tightening the nut when the car is down and on the ground at height?

 

I am having the same problem with the illuminas on my stock springs. if you dial in to settings of 2 or 1, the knocking lessens. as for your answer I don't know. I already ordered my Ground Control and Koni Yellow combo.

 

i recently got illumina's and I remember the bushings they provided were larger than stock, so I reused my stock bushings. I probley could have used them, but they just seemed to have a different contour.

Also do you have the metal sleeve that goes in the middle of the bushings at the tophat? I'm asking cause I dont think you listed it.

you said that you swaped the stock shocks back, and the noise went away. have you tried swapping the stock springs back(with the illumina's), just to see if its a shock problem or a shock spring combo problem. I'm not trying to make you do this, I'm just curious.

so have you actually observed the shocks knocking/moving around?

good luck

 

Yes the sleeve is in the bushings......

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phatrick2332 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you 100% sure that the play is in the mounts? If so, have you tried tightening the nut when the car is down and on the ground at height? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Cant. The shaft will just spin, and Im not gonna gut my interior lol....Its tight, trust me.

Thanks for feedback though.....

Anyone else?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by grog &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i recently got illumina's and I remember the bushings they provided were larger than stock, so I reused my stock bushings. I probley could have used them, but they just seemed to have a different contour.

Also do you have the metal sleeve that goes in the middle of the bushings at the tophat? I'm asking cause I dont think you listed it.

you said that you swaped the stock shocks back, and the noise went away. have you tried swapping the stock springs back(with the illumina's), just to see if its a shock problem or a shock spring combo problem. I'm not trying to make you do this, I'm just curious.

so have you actually observed the shocks knocking/moving around?

good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haven't tried em with the stock springs.....but the stock shocks worked fine with my coilovers..(as far as noise)....


Modified by SIred91 at 8:29 PM 2/26/2008

 

Did you reinstall the black rubber circle cusion inside the top hat???

Spounds like the spring is moving around. The only think that would cause this is the black cusion in the top hat, and not enough tension on the spring.

 

"Black cushion"?

The bushings are there. It wouldn't go back together without them.

"Not enough tension on the spring?

The weight of the car is on it.....its not moving around.

But thanks for the input.

 

Buddy there is a black rubber circle that goes into the top hat and has circle grooves in it to seat correctly. It prevents the spring from sitting directly in the metal top hat which would cause noise!


#14



The shock shaft goes throught the collar of the 2 round bushings, then the washer, then the nut

If you need pics i can dig out my old rubber cusions!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIred91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes the sleeve is in the bushings......

Cant. The shaft will just spin, and Im not gonna gut my interior lol....Its tight, trust me.

Thanks for feedback though.....

Anyone else?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have the same setup........If you have the allen key holding the shaft of the shock while tightening the nut with a wrench how could the shaft spin??

 

Listen "buddy".... NUMBER 14 Is right where it should be, bwtween the top hat and the spring.

I was not being sarcastic to you when I said thank you for your input.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alscrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have the same setup........If you have the allen key holding the shaft of the shock while tightening the nut with a wrench how could the shaft spin??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because, how the am I suppose to do that ON the car. I did it OFF the car 3 different times and used an impact the third time.

Trust me, I know how to use my tools.




Modified by SIred91 at 10:55 AM 2/27/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIred91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes. Bumpstops cut.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why did you cut the bumpstops. Your not supposed to for the EF chassis. you should've read the directions more carefully. they specify i think for eg and ek to be cut not ef.

 

BTW my illuminas are mint in my car. use the bushings they send you or get ES ones. Is ride height adjustable with these??

 

I had a similar problem when I switched over to my ground controls. I swore I had left something out or done something wrong when installing them.

Turns out.... my passenger side axle is bad. CV went. Rattle started soon after I put the GCs on, so it was really tough to diagnose. Plus, it came and went for a while.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Si-Samuri &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why did you cut the bumpstops. Your not supposed to for the EF chassis. you should've read the directions more carefully. they specify i think for eg and ek to be cut not ef.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I called TOKICO themself and they said yes you should if using the lowering springs!

 

Sired91, you asked about #2 before you edited it. #2 is the black bushings they include that go into the top hat with the collar.
Here is the order of removal...i know its the front, but the back is the same!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alscrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I called TOKICO themself and they said yes you should if using the lowering springs!

</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is correct.

Thanks for your image of the parts Al......the honda image.....

Its totally my fault for the noise......ROFL .....I cant beleive I was this stupid.
BUT, I also admit when I'm at fault.........I seriously had to laugh at myself for this one, hopefully it will help some NOOB in the future.

I only did this on the rear, I put the front together perfectly....LMFAO!!!


I had both of the black bushings in the top of the top hat instead of one above and one below. TOTALLY HAD A DRUNK MOMENT......I haven't been able to figure this out until today .....

When alscrx posted the diagram and I worked on it SOBER!!

Do not put your suspension together drunk!

Anyway, here's how she sits now......sexy rexy!