I have extensively searched this forum for the info that I'm looking for, but nothing really solid has come up. Mostly people bickering about the pros and cons of the swap. I just need a bit of guidance... here's my situation. I have a fully built turbo 5G prelude running and making north of 400whp and 320tq. https://honda-tech.com/zero...ge=61


And this...



RHD GSR w/ ITR bottom end, VAFC tune and 170whp.

Frankly, I just don't have the space for 2 Honda Tuner cars anymore. I have to park my Corvette outside (isn't it sad when you live in a town where your Hondas won't survive one night out on the street? haha) So I'm looking to consolidate them into one. I've been toying with the idea of stocking the Prelude and selling it, and taking the turbo H build and swapping it into the teg. Why? Because it's already built, tuned, and running and I don't feel like going through the hassle and $$$ of building another motor from scratch. So here are a couple of my concerns:

Driveline: The Prelude transmission already has a Quaife LSD in it and a rebuild about 10k miles ago... but it seems it would be a lot easier to go H2B, but it's hard to walk away from a great tranny with a quaife in it! If I do the swap.. should I just bite the bullet and go H2b and have to buy ANOTHER $900 LSD? I'm not worried about axles because I will need to get new ones anyways with the power and abuse they will be taking. Also w/ the shifter assembly. I know I'll have to cut to get the cable shifter assembly in there. But everytime I see a H22 swapped teg, the shifter assembly looks like *** in the car. Is it possible to fit the OEM interior pieces over the prelude shifter assembly or will the Prelude shifter assembly be permanently exposed?

Wiring & Engine Management: I am currently running a Hondata S300 in the Prelude. The teg is a 99 and the Prelude is a 99 so I believe both cars were originally OBD2.. But I believe the teg may have been converted to OBD1 by it's previous owner, and I went to an OBD1 distributor in the prelude. Will I have to re-wire the entire car to make this work?

Grocery List: Based upon the parts that I already have. Can someone hook me up with a grocery list of stuff I will need to make this work? I'd really appreciate it. I haven't been able to find one from searching. Please let me know if more info about my setup(s) is needed. Thanks!

 

don't do the h22 just sell the lude and use the money to build the gsr.. h22 is too heavy in the integra.

 

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It's not much heavier at all. It's somewhere around 40lb's more. That's....nothing.

 

it is really hard and expensive to do. heres a thread from team-integra.net where a guy did it. http://www.team-integra.net/fo...06670

 

Yeah.. never said anything about a mid/rwd swap.

The small amount of added weight from the H is a non-issue for a 400whp street car. Again. I'm not trying to debate this point really. Just looking for technical guidance on what will be necessary to complete the swap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mbish23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it is really hard and expensive to do. heres a thread from team-integra.net where a guy did it. http://www.team-integra.net/fo...06670 </TD></TR></TABLE>

kind of but not really...

 

My opinion, not that it matters, sell that H tranny, and just do a H2B with a LSD B series tranny. Your right, you already have everything ready from your h22. But in the end you could always sell everything and just spend the money towards your Bseries and make the same or more power with that $$$. Either way Good Luck!

 

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Yeah, I'm starting to think H2B is going to be the easier way to go. Just sucks to walk away from the Quaife, JUN Flywheel, and StageIII clutch I already have in my H tranny. However, it would be really nice to not have to fvck with hacking more to make the shifter work.

Anyone have a grocery list for this H swap so I can compare it to just starting over w/ the B?

 

well... having had an h22 in my integra... it wasnt that hard to do...the only complications i had at the time was the axles and of course wiring.. now this was about 4 years back when it was a newer swap.. if i could go back and do it again... i would. the only thing i would do different would infact be the h2b conversion. reason being...the trannys are cheaper just encase.. wirng...cake. now you can get axles from like raxles and places like that...the nly issue i think you will have is the radiator... fan....and turbo clearance...i remember how close my header was to the fan and how the slave cylinder infact tucked in the lower fan shroud... i miss that car and will most likely build another integra with a h22.... it isnt a big deal if you keep you tranny..hell you have it so use it. if you have any questions please feel free to email me...no questioon too big or small...i dont believe in the whole flaming...were here for the same reasons...ive got some old pics can dig up too if ya need them.

bill
ntgr8td@hotmail.com

 

just another thought if you went h2b, wouldn't you have better gearing from the bseries tranny? say a b16 or like a ITR tranny with the H motor?

 

eh 40 is a bit when you want a car to handle.. but obviously this being a 400hp car hes not worried about the way it handles.. i didnt think about it haha my apologies.

 

H2B FTMFW!!!!!!

Take pics when you do it, this is also on my list...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ntgr8td &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well... having had an h22 in my integra... it wasnt that hard to do...the only complications i had at the time was the axles and of course wiring.. now this was about 4 years back when it was a newer swap.. if i could go back and do it again... i would. the only thing i would do different would infact be the h2b conversion. reason being...the trannys are cheaper just encase.. wirng...cake. now you can get axles from like raxles and places like that...the nly issue i think you will have is the radiator... fan....and turbo clearance...i remember how close my header was to the fan and how the slave cylinder infact tucked in the lower fan shroud... i miss that car and will most likely build another integra with a h22.... it isnt a big deal if you keep you tranny..hell you have it so use it. if you have any questions please feel free to email me...no questioon too big or small...i dont believe in the whole flaming...were here for the same reasons...ive got some old pics can dig up too if ya need them.

bill
ntgr8td@hotmail.com</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

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For a N/A setup the B series gearing would be better for sure. But when you have a surge of turbo power available from about 1k sooner than Vtec, gearing isn't really as much of an issue... for me anyways. H series isn't too bad. If I shift at 8k, here is my gear/mph ratio respectively on the H: 1-40, 2-60, 3-90, 4-110, 5-150.


I'd still like a grocery list for the full Hswap or H2B if anyone has one handy.

 

What you could do is h2b with an ls tranny then you would have slightly better gearing with out sifting every 2 sec. I'm like 95% sure that you could just use your stock tranny mount then and the only one you would have to worry about is the main engine one.

 

Have you at all considered getting an LS tranny and putting in LSD? Then you wont have to worry about the shift linkage or what not. Either way, Good Luck.

 

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207mph here I come! haha j/k. Seriously thanks for all the input guys. I'm trying to price the alternatives and make a decision based on that.

 

you already have basically everything you need for the swap except

hasport mounts:600
and hasport axels(that can hold 400+hp Level 2.9)750
+shipping......

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96integralsvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you already have basically everything you need for the swap except

hasport mounts:600
and hasport axels(that can hold 400+hp Level 2.9)750
+shipping......</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really? I thought I might need a few extra parts to make this work. Are you saying that basically everything else I would need I could just cannibalize off of the Prelude?

 

use the prelude engine harness,tuned ecu,complete motor and tranny new axels and engine mounts.yea you should be able to do it no problem......anyone correct me if m wrong

 

Wadup Mario!

It's Corey!

 

just search around for an h swap build thread or something of the sort. i dont see it being that hard. if you decide to go h2b, youll have to buy the kit and im sure someone can chime in on who has them and where to buy one. i think it runs you like ~$800. i wanted to do this swap into my gsr so bad before it got stolen! an h2b setup in a teg, if you delete ps and ac weighs almost the exact same as a stock teg setup.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DatDBisNaSty &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wadup Mario!

It's Corey!</TD></TR></TABLE>

CORAAY!!! Good to see you on here dog. How's DYT?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by be18see1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just search around for an h swap build thread or something of the sort. i dont see it being that hard. if you decide to go h2b, youll have to buy the kit and im sure someone can chime in on who has them and where to buy one. i think it runs you like ~$800. i wanted to do this swap into my gsr so bad before it got stolen! an h2b setup in a teg, if you delete ps and ac weighs almost the exact same as a stock teg setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah. H2B is tight, and I would probably do it if I didn't already have a great tranny build, but I'm thinking more and more of sticking w/ my tranny just because of the stuff I have in it. Rebuilt, JUN Flywheel, Stage IV clutch, and Quaife LSD.

So in light of that.. Anyone know if the Karcepts shifter kit they make for K swaps would also work for an Hswap? They are both cable so I'm thinking it will. Anyone know differently?
http://www.karcepts.com/

 

i recall that you just cut a new hole and mount the entire lude shifter mechanism. i dont think it requires any aftermarket kit. but, this is all what i remember from reading, not experience.

 

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CORAAY!!! Good to see you on here dog. How's DYT?
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Same **** diffrent toilet!

How ya been mang?!