does anyone know why they never made the ep3 a type r in north american they went threw all the trouble of putting a k20a3 into it and only selling a limited amount here so why not make it a type r

 

Ask a Honda economist. I imagine there are tons of reasons but I'm sure to keep their best products domestic (JDM and technically UKDM), stock Honda performance isn't so big in the US, they could make more money elsewhere (Europe, Japan), etc.

 

Yeah, it woulda been sweet if they did though. The DC5 owners would really have nothing to brag about then, lol

 

does anyone happen to know the number of type-s vs base model sales? which one sold more?

 

I'm sure more bases.

 

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I agree

 

i'll get it is because of the United States' strict emissions standards.

 

pure jealousy thats why!!!! i don't know why it just is

 

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Actually I remember that is really the main reason.
I think it would have cost too much money for them to meet the emission standards compared to the money they would make.

 

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Actually I remember that is really the main reason.
I think it would have cost too much money for them to meet the emission standards compared to the money they would make.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I could have swore i heard something bout the Integra Type R's actually causing honda to loose money in the states but dont remember where....

 

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Actually I remember that is really the main reason.
I think it would have cost too much money for them to meet the emission standards compared to the money they would make.</TD></TR></TABLE>

England has far more emission standards than America I believe; and they have almost every type-r Japan has including the beautiful euro civic type-r. Could be wrong though...

 

Japan is also EXTREMELY strict on their emissions as well.

 

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True Dat! the DC2 Type R was the ONLY TYPE R to reach the U.S.A!
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The USDM DC2R came standard with a 195 hp 1.8 L DOHC VTEC engine, known as the B18C5
-extensive changes, including a strengthened chassis with extra spot welds and thicker metal around the rear shock towers, weight reduction (reduced sound insulation, thinner windscreen, lighter wheels and exhaust), more power (due in part to an 8400 rpm redline and hand-polished intake and exhaust ports), and suspension upgrades.

There was little net weight difference between the Integra Type R and the Integra GS-R, because the extra metal and cross bracing in the Type R almost completely negated the weight reductions.

1996-2001 DC2 Type R- Honda lost money on every single vehicle sold, even though extra dealer markups sometimes made for excessive dealer profit.

Honda produced the DC2 Type R for homological purposes to meet FIA certification of the motor and the chassis changes to make the car more competitive in N-series and World Cup racing.
(The details required, hand tooling in early versions and finishing the product through the use of various small fabrication shops in Japan made for increased costs in manufacture that could not be made up in the list price of the vehicles.)

Honda deemed the car important for the marque's image and important for the racing programmes of the era, and the parent company therefore accepted a financial net loss on each vehicle sold.
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i'd love a real type R- but the 2000-2001 models are still fetching over $15K

..when will the CRZ become available?

 

Emissions, crash standards, cost of getting certified in the US, consumer demand, etc, etc...

That's why we never saw any Type R after the DC2R.

I'm still not sure why people are complaining...neither the EP3 or the DC5 are in production anymore.

There are much cooler cars that Honda of Japan has not sent to North America in the last 15 years, and the DC5 Type-S was still remarkably close to the ITR version. Add A-Spec suspension and a LSD and you're pretty close to the DC5R, minus some appearance parts.

In the past, it was never this easy as motors were ported and chassis were different.