What do ya'll think the best clutch for a Autocross/daily driver with an few drags thrown in the mix every once in a while would be for the following set up (i'm just listing everything I have):

LS/VTEC (B18A with B16 head)
Toda Spec C2 Cams
Toda Adjustable cam gears
Toda Valve springs and retainers
Toda header
CTR oversized pistons
ITR intake manifold with 70mm Skunk2 throttle body with Injen Cold Air Intake
N1 Crank Pully
Toda timing belt

I was looking at getting a Tilton single disk clutch because I heard they grab like none other, and I was also looking at some used Tilton twin disks. I'm looking at a 6 puck disk and stuff. Just wondering what the fellow Honda-Techers think about it.

Thanks!

 

Clutchmasters...
Check these racer specials:
http://www.specialprojectsms.com /Clutchmasters

Kiwi

 

Yea, was looking at Clutchmasters and ACT too but which one would be the question?

 

So, how much power did that timing belt give you?

Stock clutch should be adequate. Maybe a SLIGHTLY more aggressive disk. You'll hate yourself if you put one of those ceramic 6 puck clutches in the car.

 

Yeah, the current clutch is gone though. Thing is I'll be launching it too sooo that's why I'm asking, bt it's mostly going to be DD/AutoX (cuz AutoX is the best :-D)

The timing belt...well considering it's Toda I think it'll add about 20whp :-)


Modified by Seminole at 11:18 PM 2/21/2008

 

Upppppp

 

you are prolly putting out similar numbers to my supercharged LS.
i went with the clutchmasters stage 3. ive driven ACT, Exedy, and Clutchmasters.
ACT i will never buy simply because im a lazy *** and the pedal effort was silly. i was happy with my Exedy, but for a stage 2 clutch it seemed to have a pretty stiff pedal as well, and apparently i cooked it in 40 000 kms. i now have a CM stage 3 in the car, light as stock pedal effort but it grabs like a monster. best price i found was at http://www.specialprojectsms.com and the owner is a racer so he was super legit to deal with. thats my 2 cents after having just made the same decision as you are now

 

Yea, my buddy has the Clutchmaster's Stage 4 in his stock 00 Si.

I don't know numbers yet because I am waiting to order a clutch before I get my machine work done on my LS block, mostly waiting for balancing reasons.

 

up

 

I've rocked a ACT st. 2 (i guess) similar to 2600, in 2 of my motors. I like ACT, even though they are heavy, it helps me modulate the clutch. They grab well too, never had a problem.

I had an exedy 6 puck w/exedy light flywheel in one of my motors and didnt really like it. Going from a full face to a 6 puck is quite a difference. The 6 puck really needed to be slipped alot when daily driving in order to be smooth, but it too grabbed like a ****.

 

Yeah, right now I'm seriously considering a Clutchmaster's Stage 4 with their flywheel.

So if I wanted to shift quickly during daily driving and slammed the clutch down and shifted and released it quickly the 6 puck wouldn't be smooth? Or it's made to do that but if you don't want to do that you have to kinda feather it?

Stage 4 is a puck where as the Stage 3 is a full disc.

ALSO, when it omes to flywheels what is better? Chromoly (sp) or Billet Aluminmun (sp)? Fidanza's (sp) flywheels seem to be lighter a bit and are made out of the billet aluminmun (sp) where as other flywheels are a bit heavier/more exspensive and made out of chromoly (sp). I've read both stating that each were better than the other sooo yeah. Just wondering.


Modified by Seminole at 9:32 PM 2/22/2008

 

^ wierd questions, especially for this forum. I dont think there is really a good or bad clutch for a mildy build 1.8 liter B series and road racing. Make it easy on yourself and the drivetrain, get a stage one.

 

The question is on here because of the fact the car is going to be an autocross/daily driver car with a bit of drag races thrown in. Thanks for the question though.

Anyone got anything on the flywheel question? I know the lighter one will spin faster thus giving more acceleration, BUT is 8 or 9lbs to light? Anyone?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Seminole &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The question is on here because of the fact the car is going to be an autocross/daily driver car with a bit of drag races thrown in. Thanks for the question though.

Anyone got anything on the flywheel question? I know the lighter one will spin faster thus giving more acceleration, BUT is 8 or 9lbs to light? Anyone?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't ask a question.
I somewhat understand your original question, but if you truly have had experience out there, you'll know that a HD clutch is basically pointless on the track. This is even more true, given the fact that you're still an amateur and have a simple motor.
Lighter flywheel, better acceleration... not so much, perhaps quicker revs, but the straight line performance will be VERY minimal.

 

My bad I typed that wrong. It was supposed to say thanks for the response. I'm asking because about 2 people back where I live were saying get a Tilton, which I thought was a bit much for a Autocross/Daily driven car. The flywheel I already knew that stuff that you just said, and once again it will not be doing straight lines very often other than when being daily driven or the by chance stoplight run or maybe race at the strip.

 

Simple-

Exedy. <U></U> The largest clutch manufacture in the WORLD. I think they know what they're doing. All others are just 2nd rate.

Ask about the new HUGE Nasa program, great discounts.

JW

edit- damn brain fade... type-o.


Modified by JohnW at 3:58 PM 2/24/2008

 

Exedy Organic

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JohnW &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Simple-
Exedy. <U></U> The largest clutch manufacture in the WORLD. I think they know what their doing. All others are just 2nd rate.

Ask about the new HUGE Nasa program, great discounts. JW</TD></TR></TABLE>

... Yeah, check out the discounts...
Then check these prices... http://www.specialprojectsms.com - Clutchmasters

As is shown by the replys to this post- Ask ten different people the same question- And you will get ten different answers ...

I only sell stuff that I have race proven. Clutchmasters

Kiwi

 

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I only sell stuff that I have race proven. Clutchmasters

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I'm sure you sell fine products, Kiwi. No questions there.

<U>The question at hand was:</U>
"What do ya'll think the best clutch for a Autocross/daily driver with an few drags thrown in the mix every once..."

Exedy is the GLOBAL leader as the largest, most well known, clutch manufacture in the world. They are 2nd to none in road racing in Japan and Europe. They also rule drifting and import drag racing here in the states. They are also OEM equipment for many import auto manufactures. Their resume' is extensive to say the least.

Exedy (USA division) has just now started to get into club-level (NASA and SCCA) road racing. See their site about the new NASA program. It will be only a short matter of time before the own that market too.

Seminole wanted the "best".... IMO, that's simple. Exedy.

Kiwi- tell me about Clutchmasters, because I've heard very little about them.

Cheers-
JW

 

i like ACT.


Ran a CM and exedy for a time, and i just didn't like them. They all last, for me about the same, it's just i like the ACT the best.


I agree with Kiwi, every one likes something different. And IMO ACT, exedy, CM you can't go wrong, performance wise.

JW your sponsored by Exedy and swing/promote who ever sponsors you. Not that there is anything wrong with that, cause there isn't and you should promote your sponsors.

 

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JW your sponsored by Exedy and swing/promote who ever sponsors you. Not that there is anything wrong with that, cause there isn't and you should promote your sponsors.

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True, Jimmy.

However, I was a huge Exedy fan before our partnership began. Truth be known, I was winning H1 races back in 2003 and 2004 with Exedy clutches, before they considered making a move towards this market. Things just came full circle.

It doesn't change the fact that Exedy puts <U>MILLIONS</U> of dollars into clutch R&D every year and produces the best units on the market. Their race history and championships simply prove that out.

JW- Who is proud of all his sponsors! Only the best tires, brake pads and clutches! Now, if I can just drive the darn thing!

 

Ericks Racing told me no on the Exedy. They don't recommend them for builds. I trust them

 

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Yeah, okay then.

You asked for the "best" so I gave it to ya. Do what you wish and good luck with the build.

Cheers!
JW

 

I'm just saying from what I've been told by known builders tat Exedy's arn't the best clutches out there. They are however the most previlant.

 

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Doesn't Erick's Racing do only drag?