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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Default stock b17 block. built head. what cams to use? UPDATED!

ok heres the deal. i have a 92 integra gsr. with the b17 motor

edit: current setup

block-
stock b17 block

head-
DPR b16 head
DPR "stage iv" head work
DPR dual valve springs
ceramic coated stainless valves
skunk2 stage 2 cams
milled 30 thou

intake-
ebay short ram
62mm RC engineering throttle body
hondata intake mani gasket
skunk2 pro series intake manifold

exhaust-
comptech 4-2-1 header
RSR exmag exhaust
straight pipe

trans-
xtd stage 3 6puck clutch
stock flywheel

ecu-
prospeed chipped p61
phearable.net basemap chip

stock fuel system.

future plans-
aem fuel rail and regulator
skunk2 cam gears
and tune

im hoping to hit around 180whp. but im sure i wont be dissapointed with whatever it makes. let me know what you guys think about my setup and what i can do to improve anything.


updated* new exhaust setup and skunk2 s2 cams installed


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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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go with the blox a or bc3+.

if yoou get the change.. try upping the compression before you stick that head back on the block.. mill it or go for a mugen/spoon HG. every bit of comp. will help your setup
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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also forgot to add.

head has been milled .030. i already bought a oem headgasket from honda.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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you'll be fine then
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 12:47 AM
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Im running an identical setup...B17 with some PR3 pistons and a P&P head and a 2Layer HG.

I went with some Skunk2 1 cams. Haven't got it tuned yet but im hoping to put down atleast 175whp with an ITR header, Skunk2 IM, 65mm TB and full exhaust.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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i got a p30 intake mani with hondata gasket. RC 62mm throttle body. shitty dc sports 4-1 header with a custom 2.5 collector with 2.5" exhaust.

i put out 192 to the crank with this head on a b16 block with itr pistons. with crower stage 1 cams. so im hoping to hit around 170whp with this setup.
im really inspired by Omniman and his builds. so im kinda going for something like that. idk how he is using such low comp. and makes huge power.
what if i went with buddy club spec 4 cams? would that be to big? im not afraid to rev this motor out. as i revved to 9500 with my b16 setup. so i dont have a problem revving to about 9 grand to make power with a bigger cam.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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ps: i may be selling my p61 ecu. ill let you know
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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i would honestly opt for the itr's. i beleive you would end up with a better torque range for a daily without sacrificing top end by much. itr's run good rpm wise as is.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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i can get buddy club spec 3 for 250 from a friend. or 200 for the ITR cams
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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i bought 00 itr cams.

ill post dyno sheets when i get the chance to tune it
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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good cams, good luck!
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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post up a dyno then. i'd like to see what she does. what comp are you running?
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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dyno prob in another month or so when the weather is warmer.

the block is stock. the head is milled .030. so i figured its about 10:3.1 comp.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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also a hytech replica tri-y header coming in soon

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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finished putting it all together today and got it running. its running pretty good. idles nice and smooth. ill post some vids at the end of the week. i still have to register it
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sweet deal. keep us posted.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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hopefully by this time next week ill have something for you guys.

i took it out for a drive the other day to make sure everything was working. everything seems fine. i had to mess with my idle alittle bit. it didnt want to stay running after it warmed up. i had to turn the throttle screw on the tb almost all the way out and tighten the throttle cable some. besides that the motor runs pretty good. i still have the stock p61 ecu. 8200 rev limt. vtec at 5800. which is fine for now.

i also have a small oil leak where the head meets the block above the engine stamp code. ive read its a common prob on bseries vtec motors. i should of put some honda bond on that area before i put it together.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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Had the same leak in my B17. Cam Seal
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Old May 27, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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i guess i should up date this thread.

oil leak has been fixed. i replaced the cam seal with a blox seal. and also bought a new vtec soleniod gasket from honda.

i still havent been able to hit the dyno yet. but i bought a chipped p61 ecu. with a basemap chip from phearable.net. it pulls very nice now with this new ecu. i also bought some skunk2 stage 2 tuner series cams. im going to dyno with the itr cams and then with the skunk2 cams. i also just bought and installed a skunk2 pro series intake manifold with hondata gasket. and a 62mm RC throttle body.

so far on the street ive beat a gsr ek coupe. lsvtec integra. and stock 91 ls hatch.

for a tune. im going to Dent Sport Garage. if anyone has heard of them. i plan on doing this soon. its just hard to put up the 500 for a tune at this time. im going to the track this friday to see what it can do before the tune.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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change your muffler/get cam gears like you listed/and you can run your skunk2 stage 2's IMO and you will make some nice power.. especially with a good header if you're on the budget like me "hytech copy"
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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yea thats the plan. i want the hks hi power exhaust. but i heard the piping is kinda small?

cam gears and hytech copy header and a new exhaust setup. imo it should put me close to my goal
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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*update*


new exhaust setup. and cams installed

i got a deal on a comptech 4-2-1 header for cheap. my dc sports hung to low and was pretty much crushed on the bottom.

rsr exmag exhaust. i dont care if this is holding me back. its staying. sounds awesome.

skunk2 stage 2 cams. just installed tonight. they made a huge difference. its still untunned running on a phearable.net chip. vtec is a 5k and it bogs slightly then pulls hard up to 8500 revlimit. im hoping i can schedule a day for a dyno tune within the next few weeks. does $500 for a dyno tune seem to high to anyone? or is that the going rate?
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Typically it's $150 an hour with a/f.

S2S2 are a good cam for your motor, Ex-Mag = The header will be holding you up though, maybe a JG with a 2.5 collector would be a better manifold for you if you're not looking to spend a G. Is your intake arm 3"? If so, get a velocity stack and K&N filter. BP has the stack and filter # on his website, it <U>will</U> make a diff.
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yea the intake arm is 3". i plan on getting a v-stack for running at the track. ill look into the k&n filter. as far as the header goes. i may still buy the hytech replica. we had a group buy locally, but that keeps on falling though.
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Oh come on man, buy something thats worth a ****.
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