Anybody ever but into water4gas.com?
I'm not going to lie. It interested me enough that I bought into it. So far buying the info has cost more than building this contraption. I've got most the parts just need to put it together. Anywho, its an interesting concept so if any of you have anything uselful to add let me know. And no jokes about blowing myslef up because that could jinx me
Subscribed for either blown up car or cool gas mileage increase.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lewie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did it. I fill it up with about 10 gallons of water a week. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Uh, it says a gallon of water will last a few months retard.
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Uh, it says a gallon of water will last a few months retard.
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lol, that's why I went back and edited.
</TD></TR></TABLE>lol, that's why I went back and edited.
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Seems to say it is NOT a scam.
Seems to say it is NOT a scam.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beeseries »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are some people on the cumminsforums running HH0 and seeing 25+ mpg. </TD></TR></TABLE>
What is HHO?
What is HHO?
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What is HHO?</TD></TR></TABLE>
h2O? lol
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h2O? lol
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h2O? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha im a tard.
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haha im a tard.
HHO is a gas that is 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen. This gas is supposed to mix with your normal air/fuel ratio to increase combustion efficiency. Its a hydrogen on demand system. Look up Lindsey Williams on youtube and watch how he explains the price of oil. It will blow your mind.
lulz! a book full of crappy tips, like scaling back the voltage on a map sensor to improve economy. something tells me some idiot with a car not equipped w/ a knock sensor will try that on 87 octane and then cry about how his car seems to drink both oil and gas.
Why must I keep explaining this to you morons. I know everyone on h-t is an ME, so why the hell don't you recall even your most basic of physics principles?
Here's a brain-busting concept: conservation of energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. So these bullshit machines typically work one of two ways. They (a) require a separate alternator that creates the electrolyzing current or (b) simply run off the car battery. The first method is complete bullshit because the cycle of energy is completely fucked:
1-Chemical energy (gasoline) is converted into kinetic energy (through combustion)
2-The kinetic energy is converted into electrical energy (alternator)
3-The electrical energy is converted back into chemical energy (HHO gas)
4-The chemical energy is converted back into kinetic energy (through combustion)
Obviously this entire cycle is bullshit, and actually loses energy since there are loads of thermal losses during every conversion process.
The other method, as mentioned in this thread (electrolyzing device runs straight off of battery) is also bullshit. It follows the same crap cycle above. Here's a stupid question: why must we convert chemical energy into kinetic energy into electrical energy back into chemical energy back into kinetic energy???? Does that make sense to anyone? Here's a brain-busting concept: if you have enough energy at the battery/alternator to drive your electrolyzing device, it simply means you were previously wasting energy at the alternator.
I've said this many times before: this whole HHO gas scam is merely an incredibly inefficient system of reclaiming wasted power. The crackpots who designed these things obviously didn't go to college, because a REAL engineer will locate the source of the problem (wasted energy) and solve it at the source (more efficient alternator).
Here's a brain-busting concept: conservation of energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. So these bullshit machines typically work one of two ways. They (a) require a separate alternator that creates the electrolyzing current or (b) simply run off the car battery. The first method is complete bullshit because the cycle of energy is completely fucked:
1-Chemical energy (gasoline) is converted into kinetic energy (through combustion)
2-The kinetic energy is converted into electrical energy (alternator)
3-The electrical energy is converted back into chemical energy (HHO gas)
4-The chemical energy is converted back into kinetic energy (through combustion)
Obviously this entire cycle is bullshit, and actually loses energy since there are loads of thermal losses during every conversion process.
The other method, as mentioned in this thread (electrolyzing device runs straight off of battery) is also bullshit. It follows the same crap cycle above. Here's a stupid question: why must we convert chemical energy into kinetic energy into electrical energy back into chemical energy back into kinetic energy???? Does that make sense to anyone? Here's a brain-busting concept: if you have enough energy at the battery/alternator to drive your electrolyzing device, it simply means you were previously wasting energy at the alternator.
I've said this many times before: this whole HHO gas scam is merely an incredibly inefficient system of reclaiming wasted power. The crackpots who designed these things obviously didn't go to college, because a REAL engineer will locate the source of the problem (wasted energy) and solve it at the source (more efficient alternator).
Also, the wild claims behind HHO gas are about as rational as the doctrines of Scientology. "They" claim that by electrolyzing water with a plasma arc (as opposed to simple electrical current), the hydrogen/oxygen atoms somehow polarize and reform magical molecules that share magical non-covalent bonding. BULLSHIT. "Brown's Gas" my ***. It's just hydrogen and oxygen folks. No magic. Fill a glass with water and throw a 9v battery in it. See the bubbles coming off the terminals? There's your mystical "HHO" gas. The bubbles on the (+) terminal are pure diatomic oxygen and the bubbles on the (-) terminal are pure diatomic hydrogen. Catch the bubbles in a balloon and put the balloon over a flame - the now mixed HHO gas inside will combust and revert back into water.
Also, the claims of instant increased MPG are also bogus. Free hydrogen does increase combustion efficiency, so theoretically you could run leaner. But you'd have to re-tune your car to see those gains. Obviously your ECU isn't aware of the hydrogen being introduced into the cylinders.
Hey Legion have you tried this water4gas technology? I'm trying to objective here and I'm still going try it but if you haven't tried it then you are not being as objective as you should be.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b.d.racing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you haven't tried it then you are not being as objective as you should be.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Scientific laws are not objective.
Cars can't, won't, and never will run on water. Case close.
Scientific laws are not objective.
Cars can't, won't, and never will run on water. Case close.


