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How do i know what wheels fill wit my car without adjusting anything?

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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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Default How do i know what wheels fill wit my car without adjusting anything?

I have a 92 civic cx
with R13 wheels

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I was wondering if I could just put 14 or 15 inch rims on there

would i have to do anything else?

What if i take the 15 inch rims from my dad's old prelude and put them in my car? what if i put my 13 inch rims onto the prelude? anything to do ? [[[ sorry im really noob at this .. noob trying to learn ]]
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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is it stock height? yea you can put your prelude wheels on the civic. it'll fit 4x100. 17's would still fit your car if you roll the fender.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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thanks dude.. appreciate it .. whas 4x100 mean ?
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HBRIDER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks dude.. appreciate it .. whas 4x100 mean ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels...id=92
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Default Re: How do i know what wheels fill wit my car without adjusting anything? (Datphan)

Originally Posted by HBRIDER
thanks dude.. appreciate it .. whas 4x100 mean ?
Distance in mm between the lug pattern - from center to center of each hole, 4 is 4 lugs, 5x____ is 5 lugs.

4x100 is the standard lug pattern for honda civics (4th and 5th gen).

Originally Posted by Datphan
is it stock height? yea you can put your prelude wheels on the civic. it'll fit 4x100. 17's would still fit your car if you roll the fender.
You can fit 17's on your car without rolling the fender.

What people don't get is the size of the rim really doesn't mean jack ****, it can be a 13" rim, it could be a 17" rim, but due to the aspect ratio of a tire, it makes no difference.

The aspect ratio:
205/55R-15 - a pretty common tire size, 55 is the aspect ratio, it's denoted as .55, as it's 55% of the tire width, the tire width, is the first number, in mm. So the width of the tire is 205mm, and 55% of that is 112.75mm, which means that from the edge of the rim, to the edge of the tire (the tire wall) is 112.75mm.

Now, by adjusting the aspect ratio you can make two different tires on two different rim sizes (one 14" and one 17" be the same total diameter.

The rim size really doesn't matter much at all, though if you get a 17" rim you're going to have to go with what I'm sure you've heard referred to as "low profile tires" - what this simply means is the aspect ratio is very low, the tire wall is very small, this way you can use a large rim, but still have the same size tire.

Now, with all of that crap said, do note, that if the total diameter of your tire is off, whether it fits or not, your speedometer will be off, as the speedometer is set for the size tire that comes on that car. Though you can maintain the tire size.

You wanna put different rims on, that's fine, pretty much as long as they're Honda and as long as they're 4 lugs you won't have a problem, I'm pretty sure all 4 lug honda wheels are 4x100 pattern (though anybody selling them could tell you) and none of them have crazy offsets out of the factory which would make rubbing up against the fender a problem.

So as long as you get the overall tire diameter to match what belongs stock on the car, A) It'll fit 100%, B) For the most part, it doesn't matter what size rim you use, and C) The speedometer will be as accurate as it can get.

Overall tire diameter:
Sidewall = Width * .(aspect ratio)
ie. 205 * .55

Total diameter = (sidewall * 2) + rim diameter

Note that sidewall will be in mm and rim in inches so you have to convert.

Now, as far as "why do tires rub on the fenders?" It's real easy - rice. The more of a JDM injected Honda ricer fanboy you are, the lower your car is, when your car gets low enough, you have to roll your fenders or it will rub against the tire. The rim/tire doesn't get smaller as your car's fender's area gets smaller and smaller as your car gets lower and lower. Moral of the story: Don't slam your car past making it impossible to align without a negative camber and you won't run into any tire rubbing problems.

Me: I've had about a 2" drop on my civic and it's been 100% perfect, 100% alignable (I did the alignment myself, so I know it is) without a camber kit, and the tires don't rub, regardless of a ditch, speed bump, or angled steep incline forcing the chassis to twist. It had 17" rims on it when I got it, no problems. Now i have 14" steelies on it and they're the same size as my 17"s, and still, no problems.

Not lowering your car more than 2" is smart from a daily driver perspective. You still have the handling of a car that has a lowered suspension (it doesn't oscillate as much (as there's not as much lift) at high speeds so you also have more control) without compromising ANY daily drivability issues. So basically, I have the best of both worlds. I can do a 100% alignment with no extra camber **** or washers, my car handles quite nicely and a lot better than a stock civic due to drop, I don't have to "extra mind" any speed bumps, ditches, etc. - and it still looks nice with the drop. Sort of like blade, all of the strengths, none of the weaknesses .

So as long as your car's not retarded slammed down to the ground in an attempt to get it closer to japan (straight line distance), you'll be fine.

As long as you use a 4 lug Honda wheel you'll most likely be fine.

As for making sure the tire doesn't rub and the speedometer reads accurate, make sure you use the aspect ratio curvature to make the overall tire diameter the same size as stock.

If you have any questions at all feel free to IM me.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 04:02 AM
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I always learn so much from Syndacte's posts He pretty much summed it up dude. As long as its 4x100 and your tires aren't crazy beefy, you should be fine.
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