$2500 too good to be true for a B18B installed in a CRX?

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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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There's a shop around here that claims that they can install a B18B into my CRX for $2500 + taxes. That sounds too good to be true doesn't it? Keep in mind that Hondamotorsonline.com has this motor for $2200. And that's without the motor mounts.

You know what they say, "If it sounds too good to be true, it is".

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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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All depends on what they paid for the motor and what they have laying around the shop.

I know sometimes local shop has some spare parts and will do some deals like this.

Ask them about a leak down test what brand mounts and if it'll be done with freshing things up like new water/oil pump head gasket dizzy things ilke that.

I wouldn't say it can't be done for that at a shop, but you are wise for asking it does sound like it might be too good.

Also think about is this shop well known or known at all?
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Ls motor = 600 and transmission = 300-400. That's like 1k. It sounds like a decent price for an install.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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http://www.jdmcreation.com/Bseriesswaps.htm

This is their site. They said they've been in business for 3 years. Yeah, i'm sure they will use crappy mounts and won't replace anything.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UmbraDc2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ls motor = 600 and transmission = 300-400. That's like 1k. It sounds like a decent price for an install.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, hondamotorsonline has it for $2200 for the complete change over? And their prices are very fair.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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Default Re: $2500 too good to be true for a B18B installed in a CRX? (klion22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klion22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a shop around here that claims that they can install a B18B into my CRX for $2500 + taxes. That sounds too good to be true doesn't it? Keep in mind that Hondamotorsonline.com has this motor for $2200. And that's without the motor mounts.

You know what they say, "If it sounds too good to be true, it is".

Thoughts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Keep in mind that these shops often have connections with salvage yards and various operations of that type. They can get motors and swaps often for wholesale or less. It is unlikely (however possible) that they would use a big-name importer. That would make this deal much more understandable.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Hmm, well the prices I brought up are like the street price for those things. Plus some shops around here sell LS motors for a cheap price. JDM Unlimited has the LS for 700 and I know you can find a Ls hydro trans for like 400 because I just got rid of mine for that.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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But why would hmotorsonline have the B16a1 for $1500 while the B18B1 is $2200? Wouldn't some people prefer the B16 to begin with? I personally would prefer the B18 due to the torque.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klion22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But why would hmotorsonline have the B16a1 for $1500 while the B18B1 is $2200? Wouldn't some people prefer the B16 to begin with? I personally would prefer the B18 due to the torque. </TD></TR></TABLE> I assume that price is for a gen1 b16?

That's part of it, its a gen1 b16 it's obd0. More people want a b16 because they don't know better.

ls + b16 tranny
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ***$nyper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I assume that price is for a gen1 b16?

That's part of it, its a gen1 b16 it's obd0. More people want a b16 because they don't know better.

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Just about to say the same thing. to you man.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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piece together a swap, get some quality parts, replace all the gaskets, buy a torque wrench and an integra manual and DIY. (buy some brewskis for your buds too)

The experience of pulling it off yourself is priceless and if done right, it will yield better results than a quickie swap done at a shop.

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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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Default Re: $2500 too good to be true for a B18B installed in a CRX? (klion22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klion22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.jdmcreation.com/Bseriesswaps.htm

This is their site. They said they've been in business for 3 years. Yeah, i'm sure they will use crappy mounts and won't replace anything. </TD></TR></TABLE>

those buttons on that site look oddly familiar....http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/index.php LOL
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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An Obd0 is a more straight forward swap than an Obd1 when swapping into an EF right because the EF is Obd0 to begin with?

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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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I belive it's legit,they have a couple of cars that they have done.Labjunkies right?Im saving up my pennies to have them do the swap,they have been around for a while,cause I remeber contemplating a b16 into my ek sedan like 2 yrs ago.Go to the shoop its of the 10e in san berdoo.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ***$nyper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I assume that price is for a gen1 b16?

That's part of it, its a gen1 b16 it's obd0. More people want a b16 because they don't know better.

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**** dude.

So you are telling me I would be better off trading my B16A for an LS and just using that with my B16A tranny?

Please explain.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIred91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you are telling me I would be better off trading my B16A for an LS and just using that with my B16A tranny?
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Its an opinion. Do you like chocolate or vanilla? There isn't a wrong answer.
In this case, I happen to agree...I prefer the B18b torque and y1 B16 tranny for a daily driver. Or if smog doesn't prevent it, consider the B20z (or whichever JDM B20 is making 146ish hp)
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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until i can get my vtec head on my ls block i have a straight ls with a stock head with a j1 cable tranny. personally i think the stock ls would put stripes down the b16. great low/mid range and even when the power falls of past 6,000 rpms the low geared tranny still pulls it decent.
thats just my opinion,i dont want anyone to take it as me stateing it as fact and start flaming away. it just depends where you like your power
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 12:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UmbraDc2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ls motor = 600 and transmission = 300-400. That's like 1k. It sounds like a decent price for an install.</TD></TR></TABLE>
1500 for just put the motor in'???!!!! are u serious bro u can do that in 30 mins no big deal.....and ls motor and b16 tranny mmm i would say get a gsr block, type r head and ls tranny and u'll be doing 13.2 at the 1/4 mile IMO
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Default Re: $2500 too good to be true for a B18B installed in a CRX? (klion22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klion22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a shop around here that claims that they can install a B18B into my CRX for $2500 + taxes. That sounds too good to be true doesn't it? Keep in mind that Hondamotorsonline.com has this motor for $2200. And that's without the motor mounts.

You know what they say, "If it sounds too good to be true, it is".

Thoughts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is DIY. You should do it yourself and save money and learn something.
Paying someone to do your swap is so late 90s.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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This is DIY. You should do it yourself and save money and learn something.
Paying someone to do your swap is so late 90s. </TD></TR></TABLE>

God i wish people would stop saying this. Believe me, if i knew how to do this stuff i would. I don't have the time to invest to learn how to do this. I don't doubt that this type of stuff isn't THAT complicated if you really want to learn but like i said, i don't have the time. It makes much more sense for me to pay someone $500 to do the swap rather than me wasting maybe months trying to figure this out. I definitely wish i could build an eigine from scratch. I would build it from the ground up and hot tank everything and do everything right. But my knowledge is very basic. The most i can do is install coilovers, headers, exhaust, and intakes. That's about it.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klion22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">God i wish people would stop saying this. Believe me, if i knew how to do this stuff i would. I don't have the time to invest to learn how to do this. </TD></TR></TABLE> Yes you do, it's not bad, only negative thinking is bad. I learned how to remove a motor in under two hours because I couldn't afford to have someone do it for me. I learned how to convert the car to OBD-1 in 2 days because I couldn't afford a jumper at the time. And I can put an engine back in a car in under 30 minutes, without the proper tools. If you think it will be hard, then it will be. But if you go in with a positive mind set, you'll be peachy.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Yes you do, it's not bad, only negative thinking is bad. I learned how to remove a motor in under two hours because I couldn't afford to have someone do it for me. I learned how to convert the car to OBD-1 in 2 days because I couldn't afford a jumper at the time. And I can put an engine back in a car in under 30 minutes, without the proper tools. If you think it will be hard, then it will be. But if you go in with a positive mind set, you'll be peachy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, i know lots of information on how to do a swap but it just won't come together until i watch someone do it. I'm a real hands on type of person and this type of stuff is really hands on stuff. You can read a bunch of books about it but until you get your hands dirty and just experience it, it won't come close to the actual thing.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Just jump in head first. After you're done you will look back and wonder why you even concidered paying someone else to do it. If you know how to loosen bolts and retighten them you will be ok. Just put all the bolts back in that you took off.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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just take your time and pay attention when you take the motor/tranny out.
when you put the swap in it will come to you. no one on here was born a expert and 95% of us are backyard mechanics with a cherrypicker and a box full of sockets and wrenches.
i would help to have a friend help/watch to pay attention. 2 sets of eyes is better than one. you'll never get any where by paying someone else to do it for you. you will have a great sence of pride doing it your self. were not being *******'s,were just normal guys like you trying to help you out. if you have any problems post on here we'll be glad to guide you through it
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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After putting in your own motor in, you'll appreciate driving it more knowing you did it yourself and if something goes wrong, you know who expletiveed it up. Working at a shop made me realize that when I got my old Rx7 running again.
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