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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Default Car cranks but won't turn over, weird sounding...

Well my car isnt starting, and the way it cranks sounds very weird. Heres a vid...


http://youtube.com/watch?v=RQXyMLLhf1w

I've had one person tell me its the alternator because of the whining sound, any other opinions?
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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I am getting a spark, i just checked...
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Do you have a fuel gage on the car? If so do you have any fuel pressure?
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Only fuel gauge I have is empty or full

My fuel pump is priming also... I can't figure this **** out
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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lol, check your grounds
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Has any work been done on the motor recently? Take the plugs out and smell for fuel or see if any of them are wet, if your positive you have spark.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hiii Im TYLER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, check your grounds </TD></TR></TABLE>

VC ground is fine, Batt ground is fine. Any others?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by z6hatchboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has any work been done on the motor recently? Take the plugs out and smell for fuel or see if any of them are wet, if your positive you have spark.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I got in an accident, thats all thats happend since it was running good, but after the accident the car started up fine, the day after it started up fine. Only thing I can think of is that its been sitting on jackstands, with the front of the car up for 2 days...

Pulled all my plugs, only one looked some what wet, the rest looked find. Im positive I have a spark.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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How did you check spark?

Did you check fuel?

What kind of accident and what was damaged on the car?

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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Front end accident into a small wall, bent my LCA, and cracked my rim. For more info see my build thread in my sig.

I checked spark with a spark plug detector, I smell gas after cranking...
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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hmm..maybe new alternator would fix it
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Morasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
VC ground is fine, Batt ground is fine. Any others?
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Thermostat. That controls the fuel pump I believe. But if you hear it prime, should be good.

Nothing else has been touched? Distributor? Starter? Engine is in time?


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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda Bull &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thermostat. That controls the fuel pump I believe. But if you hear it prime, should be good.

Nothing else has been touched? Distributor? Starter? Engine is in time?</TD></TR></TABLE>

theres a transmission ground too people tend to miss that.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tommy. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm..maybe new alternator would fix it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Possibly...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda Bull &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thermostat. That controls the fuel pump I believe. But if you hear it prime, should be good.

Nothing else has been touched? Distributor? Starter? Engine is in time?


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Checked the dizzy cap, tried malleting the starter, not sure about the timing, but I don't see what would make it go out of time..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SjCiViCHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

theres a transmission ground too people tend to miss that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Got that.


I think its electrical related. If I put my interior lights on and **** and try to crank the car, it dims BAD. Battery maybe?
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Morasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I think its electrical related. If I put my interior lights on and **** and try to crank the car, it dims BAD. Battery maybe?</TD></TR></TABLE>

did you try jump starting it already then?
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SjCiViCHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

did you try jump starting it already then? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Try that.

About the timing, I wouldn't know why it would jump time either, but never hurts to just double-check.

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SjCiViCHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

did you try jump starting it already then? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I havent, I live on a hilly street so I need to wait for someone to help me so If it doesn't work I can push it back up the hill!
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Try this first:Get a jump box or jumper cables and use your moms car to try to jump start it.

ALTERNATOR IS NOT GOIN TO CAUSE THAT! You can run a car with no alternator if your batter has its proper charge.

Check spark in all 4 cyclinders.
Check timing.

Edit: Its prob. your battery.. leave your lights on for a few min. and see what happens! hahahhaha that will tell you for sure if its good or bad
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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^ Was just about to say that ! The Alternator has nonthing to do with starting the car , thats the batteries job. The alt keeps everything going after the car is started.... So I'd check your battery, in your video the car did sound VERY weak when you were trying to start it.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16B_coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try this first:Get a jump box or jumper cables and use your moms car to try to jump start it.

ALTERNATOR IS NOT GOIN TO CAUSE THAT! You can run a car with no alternator if your batter has its proper charge.

Check spark in all 4 cyclinders.
Check timing.

Edit: Its prob. your battery.. leave your lights on for a few min. and see what happens! hahahhaha that will tell you for sure if its good or bad </TD></TR></TABLE>

Will it not just die?
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AlwayzSpoolin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ Was just about to say that ! The Alternator has nonthing to do with starting the car , thats the batteries job. The alt keeps everything going after the car is started.... So I'd check your battery, in your video the car did sound VERY weak when you were trying to start it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It is weak...

But my radio and lights and **** still work... Could that still be a bad batt?
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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It is weak...

But my radio and lights and **** still work... Could that still be a bad batt?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, Take that **** to autozone and have them check your battery

Everything will still work till all the juice in the battery is gone.

A weak battery almost sounds like a car with little to no compression cause it has no power.

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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Gotta wait for someone from my family comes home before I can do anything!
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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Ok, Well take your battery to get checked at autozone
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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It is weak...

But my radio and lights and **** still work... Could that still be a bad batt?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Could be. It takes a lot more work to turn over a motor and all of its pieces of steel and aluminum vs. powering a few electronic items.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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Timing jumped teeth... sounds exactly the same as when my b series jumped timing
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