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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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ok i recently installed a set of blox rear lca's in my 97 integra. now i have multiple suspension set up in this car before and never had a problem till i put these in.
here is a list of my suspension mods:

skunk 2 springs
kyb gr2 struts
suspension technique sway bars
knock off mugen front upper strut brace
weapon r rear x brace similar to the rear trunk brace on jhp
blow rear lower control arms

now my problem is wearing rear tires and the rear of the car is everywhere on the road, kinda scary.
i figured my sway bars were to tight so i loosened them no change, then figure maybe the rear was to tight with the x brace alil better, then the other day i notice xcessive camber wear on my rear tires like the car was slammed with no camber kits but its not as lower is lets say an integra with nuespeed race springs and i have the rear camber kit in. the only thing i can figure is the rear wheels are now toe'd out so its leading the the wear on the tires and the rear end of the car grabbing every grove in the road. now i never had the problem till i put these gay control arms in but kinda had to cause i needed to replace the struts and they were siezed in the oem control arms. now they arent marked which side is which and i wasnt sure if it mattered they looked to be the same. now i know a simple alingnment will fix this but there shouldnt be a need for one. ifanyone should have any input or might have had a similar problem please give me your thoughts.

SORRY FOR IT BEING SO LONG.......
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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Default Re: rear lower control arm ISSUESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (slowteg97)

what kind of tires? and were they replaced recently?
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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yea i had a new set of general z rated tires on the car rims are 16 inch with 205/45r16
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Default Re: rear lower control arm ISSUESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (slowteg97)

i had the same problem with the rear end of the car going every where. it was right after i put new, shitty tires on there. i switched the tires and it was fixed.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 06:02 AM
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yea thats what i figured was the problem too, but cause when i first di it had bad tires on the back recently replaced the fronts so i swaped them to the back they had 95 % thread and got brand new ones for the front for winter. no change and that was only back in november and i only drive my car maybe 100 miles a week and that pushing it since i recently changed jobs. so there is no reason for the excessive wear on the rear tirea idk im gonna swap the lca's from one side to the other maybe it will help i doubt it soo ill be lookin for oem should have stayed with oem never had a problem before.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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Default Re: rear lower control arm ISSUESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (slowteg97)

You need to get the car on an alignment rack regardless of whether you feel it should be necessary or not.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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alignment was checked at my friends shop once relowered only thing that was changed after that was tires and the lca's. i have install a handfullof aftermarket lcas in a few of my friends car and never had this kind of a problem might just locate some oem ones and put them back in.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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oh and this is slowteg 97 just on my friends name lol
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Hmm that's weird cuz I have the Blox lca's on my DA and I'm slammed to the maximum degree of difficulty and never had an alignment and my tires are fine..

You might want to check the bushings on them cuz I know they suck. Worn out bushings on the lca tends to make the wheel "wander" according to my mechanic but then again.. like others have suggested.. go get an alignment and see if that solves the problem.

Or I know this might sound dumb but also make sure your lugnuts are on tight and even... just a thought..
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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the "only thing you changed after alignment was lca's". thats a major suspension part. you should get it realigned. if its wandering thats most likely your problem.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 12:45 AM
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Default Re: rear lower control arm ISSUESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (jeffy)

It's almost definitely a toe issue. Any time you replace something like a control arm (or bush, or tie rod end, or ball joint etc) the alignment needs to be at least checked, even if the part that was replaced was an identical component, let alone one from a different manufacturer (i.e. aftermarket). If this wasn't necessary, then there would be no point in the car manufacturer bothering to provide an adjustment.

If you've done it previously and had no significant issues then you've been lucky, though my bet is that when you have done it before that the toe probably wasn't what it should have been and tyre wear / handling would most likely have been better after an alignment. Keep in mind that even if the part you replaced were manufactured to identical tolerence, the bush in the old part was probably worn to some degree.
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