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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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My question on this form is whether to get a cerametallic twin disk or c/c twin disk clutch. What are the pro's and con's of both and what are the pro's using and recommend? The choice of brand for me is Competition Clutch I just don't know what to go with. My vehicle is a track car that is driven to the track. I hope this is enough info to gain some positive feedback.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Default Re: Carbon/Carbon or Cerametallic Twin Disk? (rota92)

What if you can get a good price on it?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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I currently run a ceramic competition twin disc, my car only puts out 300hp right now but the clutch is holding up great. It has about 15 dyno runs and 20-25 passes and it performs great. For me the deciding factor was cost and I don't regret my decision on bit. My car is a track car.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s4yama &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I currently run a ceramic competition twin disc, my car only puts out 300hp right now but the clutch is holding up great. It has about 15 dyno runs and 20-25 passes and it performs great. For me the deciding factor was cost and I don't regret my decision on bit. My car is a track car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How is the peddle feel on it and is it very harsh on engagement?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Carbon/Carbon or Cerametallic Twin Disk? (rota92)

competition offers 2 different pressure plates, i believe one is the "blue" which is a 2800lbs and the "white" which is the 2300lbs plate. Someone please correct if i am wrong with the exact colors. The heavier plate is stiffer pedal but will obviously hold more tq. I run the 2300lbs twin in alot of customers cars and it is a great piece. I have had them hold very well to over 500ft.lbs.


Personally i use a tilton carbon/carbon. This is due to i have had it for a while, way before i started to use the comp stuff. Although I have had issues with the tilton metallic stuff "welding" itself together on me 3 seperate times and have never had that issue with the competition metaillic.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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hey miller, what do you mean "welded" it self together?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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Default Re: Carbon/Carbon or Cerametallic Twin Disk? (FRernesto)

My opinion is regarding the Tilton CC. If you can get the Tilton Carbon/Carbon, GET THAT ****. I know of certain race cars that are on their 3rd season with it.
It is quite a bit of money, but from alot of feedback from Carbon/Carbon owners, they felt that it was worth it considering how much racing they do and how long they have been using it.

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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 03:30 AM
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Default Re: Carbon/Carbon or Cerametallic Twin Disk? (FRernesto)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FRernesto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My question on this form is whether to get a cerametallic twin disk or c/c twin disk clutch. What are the pro's and con's of both and what are the pro's using and recommend? The choice of brand for me is Competition Clutch I just don't know what to go with. My vehicle is a track car that is driven to the track. I hope this is enough info to gain some positive feedback. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I am going to ASSume you need a clutch of this magnitude based on your setup. I would not get the carbon/carbon competition clutch unit if you are going to drive it on the street, etc. That clutch does not hold up very long on street driving before it has to be adjusted.

I went with the Tilton carbon/carbon clutch and drive it on the street, to the track, etc. and it has held up great with no adjusting. If I were to do it again, I would get the same clutch. I had nothing but issues with the Tilton cerametallic clutches, but this carbon/carbon has been great.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 04:39 AM
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Yup, the Tilton carbon/carbon clutch is the best, hands down. If you can get a deal on it, get it. If you can get a deal on it and don't want it, PM me, i'll buy it!
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">competition offers 2 different pressure plates, i believe one is the "blue" which is a 2800lbs and the "white" which is the 2300lbs plate. Someone please correct if i am wrong with the exact colors. The heavier plate is stiffer pedal but will obviously hold more tq. I run the 2300lbs twin in alot of customers cars and it is a great piece. I have had them hold very well to over 500ft.lbs.


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If they are using quartemaster diaphrams, the yellow is 2000lbs, the blue is 2100, and the white is 2400. They used to have a unpainted one that was around 2600 lbs.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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we have always run the tilton twin disc cerametallic with excellent success, we love it -- had one last almost 2 full seasons and even still probably could of run it but figured might as well start with fresh parts for the next year

the carbon/carbon unit would be nice but is $$$$

tony1 -- have you seen any inconsistency with the carbon/carbon unit? the carbon is pretty sensitive to heat so does the variances of the heat in the clutch from run to run and launch to launch make the car react any differently?
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Carbon is like aluminum foil. with in a few moments of taking it out of the oven when I cook my plates it cools down to touchable. And I slip the ***** off my clutch all through staging of my car and it reacts smooth every time.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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i see you guys having such great success with tilton's stuff, must be b series stuff. A guy I know in florida and I stripped the inner splines out in the clutch pads...
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