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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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I have a car built for honda challenge (well when i get done with the roll cage) Should have the hpde done and some lap attacks by summer. i want to start competing in honda challenge. I saw a guy running a h2b setup @ vir what classes is that allowed in i figure h1 what about h2
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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H1 only.

If you're building the car now, have you done any HPDEs before? If not, you won't be racing by the summer.
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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should have the last hpde done in march. i have every thing done on the car just finishing up the roll cage. i want to beable to do some lap attacks by summer
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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So...you have done HPDEs then...?
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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I think we are looking at two different issues here. the most important one being that it does not sould like you have remotely enough experience to consider racing, or maybe you do, and it's not coming through in your posts. If you are thinking that between now and March you'll cram in a bunch of hpde's then consider going for your license test, bad idea. Run with NASa few years, go up through the HPDE ladder, do a season of TT, get used to passing offline, dealing with other faster cars, having faster cars close up behind you at a high rate of speed, etc., then look at racing. I've been open tracking 5 years, 2 years of TT, and my first year of racing will start at the end of this year. No hurry. It will also inspire the confidence of those that have to share the track with you.
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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dont <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hagakure &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think we are looking at two different issues here. the most important one being that it does not sould like you have remotely enough experience to consider racing, or maybe you do, and it's not coming through in your posts. If you are thinking that between now and March you'll cram in a bunch of hpde's then consider going for your license test, bad idea. Run with NASa few years, go up through the HPDE ladder, do a season of TT, get used to passing offline, dealing with other faster cars, having faster cars close up behind you at a high rate of speed, etc., then look at racing. I've been open tracking 5 years, 2 years of TT, and my first year of racing will start at the end of this year. No hurry. It will also inspire the confidence of those that have to share the track with you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is what i am doing i started out in autoX. now in my hpde. hope to have the last 2 hpde done by this summer. i plan to do alot of TT, i just would like to build a spec honda challenge engine while doing my TT.i have a b16 now all oem honda parts except for the valves springs and retainers. i do not feel like i am ready to compete in wheel to wheel action yet. i have a garage full of h22 and h23 parts
i love to build engines i have a complete cnc machine and fab shop. i am not wanting to start next week i never said that. i just wanted to know what class h2b is legal in. i read in h2 class you can run a H22/H23 100% USDM or JDM OEM 10.65:1 @ 2600lbs. but i think that is to heavy since i have a EG. i was not sure if that ment i could run a h2b setup. i plan to take it slow i have talked to all the guys at the track asking them what to do and about what to build. i went to my first hc 2.5 years ago. i fell in love and have been working to get there does this help you out on my plans
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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H-series with H tranny is allowed in H2, but H2B is in H1.
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Good luck man. Sounds good.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 05:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stinkycheezmonky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H-series with H tranny is allowed in H2, but H2B is in H1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
correct.

You could run your current B16 in H2. Or you could run an H-series engine AND TRANS in H2. But the H2B combo is only allowed in H1. I say sell the H-stuff and stick with the b16. H2 is the place to be.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hagakure &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Run with NASa few years, go up through the HPDE ladder, do a season of TT.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm all for people taking the time and being comfortable before the come into the wheel to wheel ranks but doing HPDE/TT for three to four years is not needed. It really comes down to how comfortable a driver is on track. If you do three events a year then yeah this plan will work but if someone wants to race they are going to be working hard to get there. Keep in mind that some potential HPDEers have had wheel to wheel experience on say a motocross course or karting, all the skills from those regarding racecraft carry right over.

Back on topic. Yes, H2B is legal in H1 only. The cars you saw it in were the Curpier Motorsports cars.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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well i will stick to the b stuff for now but i have been able to get some huge power from my h builds. the only thing i dont like is the frm sleeves. I can get the h22 head to flow well on my flow bench. they have a ok R/S and with jdm type s pistons i can take the compression to the max 11.5to1. i all ready have a h22 engine built like the rules state, but the crank is knife edged so i have to get another crank.I will try to post some pics of the car
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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If I was you, I would stick to the B16 for now. If you start messin with the H. You will find yourself spending alot more money. The car will surly be faster, but it will not make you any more competitive. It will actually make it harder for you to win, becuase you will be going up to H1. Which is really fast.

If you still go H, I recommend you convert it to Manual tensioner before you even put it in the car. Since your still doin HPDE, you dont want to be spending all your money messing with the engine. Your better off spending your money on entry fees
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