Need to replace tires on wifes RSX-S
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Need to replace tires on wifes RSX-S
This is my wifes car, and it does not endure spirited driving unless I have to drive it....
I have my S2K and ITR for that.....
Has anyone had experience with the following tires....
Falken Ziex ZE-512
http://www.discounttiredirect....ar=45
or the Falken Ziex ZE-912
http://www.discounttiredirect....ar=45
Falken Azenis ST-115
http://www.discounttiredirect....ar=45
the tire has to be quiet more than anything
w/ some performance attributes
the Michelins that come on it from the factory are nice and quiet w/ decent grip, but are a little pricey right now...
and we may be trading the car within the next year or so....
any and all input is greatly appreciated......
I have my S2K and ITR for that.....
Has anyone had experience with the following tires....
Falken Ziex ZE-512
http://www.discounttiredirect....ar=45
or the Falken Ziex ZE-912
http://www.discounttiredirect....ar=45
Falken Azenis ST-115
http://www.discounttiredirect....ar=45
the tire has to be quiet more than anything
w/ some performance attributes
the Michelins that come on it from the factory are nice and quiet w/ decent grip, but are a little pricey right now...
and we may be trading the car within the next year or so....
any and all input is greatly appreciated......
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Re: Need to replace tires on wifes RSX-S (cmdr430)
They are cheap but mediocre all-season tires.
You can do a lot better. For about the same price, you can get the Kumho ASX all-season, which is much much better in every way. At the Tire Rack, they're $70 in 205/55-16 and $87 in 225/45-17.
You can do a lot better. For about the same price, you can get the Kumho ASX all-season, which is much much better in every way. At the Tire Rack, they're $70 in 205/55-16 and $87 in 225/45-17.
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Re: Need to replace tires on wifes RSX-S (nsxtasy)
I was hoping you would chime in....
So, you would go w/ none of the above?
what about Falken fk-452
I had the 451's on my 00' s2k and they seemed pretty decent.... the rears wore out pretty fast though...roughly 8k miles
also, tire rack has avon tech m500's on closeout
So, you would go w/ none of the above?
what about Falken fk-452
I had the 451's on my 00' s2k and they seemed pretty decent.... the rears wore out pretty fast though...roughly 8k miles
also, tire rack has avon tech m500's on closeout
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Re: Need to replace tires on wifes RSX-S (cmdr430)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmdr430 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was hoping you would chime in....
So, you would go w/ none of the above?
what about Falken fk-452
I had the 451's on my 00' s2k and they seemed pretty decent.... the rears wore out pretty fast though...roughly 8k miles
also, tire rack has avon tech m500's on closeout</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, the first thing you need to ask yourself is whether you need summer tires or all-season tires. As noted in the FAQ topic stickied at the top of this forum:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FAQ Topic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><FONT SIZE="4">Tires FAQ</FONT>
What kinds of tires are there?
Broad groupings of tires include summer tires, winter tires, all-season tires, and competition tires.
Summer tires are designed for use for moderate to warm temperatures. If you are only going to be using your tires in temperatures above freezing, summer tires provide the best performance at those temperatures. With only a few exceptions, most summer tires do extremely well in rain as well as on dry pavement. Summer tires are not recommended for use in extreme cold conditions, and especially not on snow and ice.
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All-season tires are the most flexible in terms of ambient temperatures, as they are designed to be used in frigid winter cold and on snow, as well as in moderate to warm temperatures. The downside of this flexibility is that their performance in most conditions is not as good as tires designed specifically for those conditions. In winter conditions, all-seasons perform better than summer tires but not as well as winter tires; in moderate to warm temperatures, they perform better than winter tires but not as well as summer tires. If you need to use the same tires all year round, in winter conditions (frigid cold, snow, ice) as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year, then all-season tires are a good choice. Recommended all-season tires include the Kumho Ecsta ASX, Pirelli PZero Nero M+S, and Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position.
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Some people mistakenly believe that all-season tires are needed for rain performance. This is not true; good all-around summer tires like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 and Kumho SPT are outstanding in rain, better than all-seasons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know that it occasionally snows in NC, not very often but once in a while. If you need to be out driving in those conditions, you ought to get all-seasons; if you can count on staying home (or maybe you have a truck/SUV to use on those days), you can get summer tires for higher performance on all the other days.
If you decide you need all-seasons, the Kumho ASX is a good choice (and I would take it over the Falken Ziex ZE-512 or ZE-912 all-seasons).
If you decide you want summer tires, the Avon Tech M500 is a good choice, and so is the Kumho SPT (and I would take either one over the Falken FK-451 or FK-452 summer tires).
HTH
So, you would go w/ none of the above?
what about Falken fk-452
I had the 451's on my 00' s2k and they seemed pretty decent.... the rears wore out pretty fast though...roughly 8k miles
also, tire rack has avon tech m500's on closeout</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, the first thing you need to ask yourself is whether you need summer tires or all-season tires. As noted in the FAQ topic stickied at the top of this forum:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FAQ Topic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><FONT SIZE="4">Tires FAQ</FONT>
What kinds of tires are there?
Broad groupings of tires include summer tires, winter tires, all-season tires, and competition tires.
Summer tires are designed for use for moderate to warm temperatures. If you are only going to be using your tires in temperatures above freezing, summer tires provide the best performance at those temperatures. With only a few exceptions, most summer tires do extremely well in rain as well as on dry pavement. Summer tires are not recommended for use in extreme cold conditions, and especially not on snow and ice.
.
.
.
All-season tires are the most flexible in terms of ambient temperatures, as they are designed to be used in frigid winter cold and on snow, as well as in moderate to warm temperatures. The downside of this flexibility is that their performance in most conditions is not as good as tires designed specifically for those conditions. In winter conditions, all-seasons perform better than summer tires but not as well as winter tires; in moderate to warm temperatures, they perform better than winter tires but not as well as summer tires. If you need to use the same tires all year round, in winter conditions (frigid cold, snow, ice) as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year, then all-season tires are a good choice. Recommended all-season tires include the Kumho Ecsta ASX, Pirelli PZero Nero M+S, and Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position.
.
.
.
Some people mistakenly believe that all-season tires are needed for rain performance. This is not true; good all-around summer tires like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 and Kumho SPT are outstanding in rain, better than all-seasons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know that it occasionally snows in NC, not very often but once in a while. If you need to be out driving in those conditions, you ought to get all-seasons; if you can count on staying home (or maybe you have a truck/SUV to use on those days), you can get summer tires for higher performance on all the other days.
If you decide you need all-seasons, the Kumho ASX is a good choice (and I would take it over the Falken Ziex ZE-512 or ZE-912 all-seasons).
If you decide you want summer tires, the Avon Tech M500 is a good choice, and so is the Kumho SPT (and I would take either one over the Falken FK-451 or FK-452 summer tires).
HTH
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Well the 512's are discontinued so you'd have to get the 912's. I have a pair of 512's on now for all season driving and they're great. I just purchased a pair of 912's and am looking forward to using them. I use the Azeni 615's in the summer on the front.
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Re: Need to replace tires on wifes RSX-S (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well, the first thing you need to ask yourself is whether you need summer tires or all-season tires. As noted in the FAQ topic stickied at the top of this forum:
I know that it occasionally snows in NC, not very often but once in a while. If you need to be out driving in those conditions, you ought to get all-seasons; if you can count on staying home (or maybe you have a truck/SUV to use on those days), you can get summer tires for higher performance on all the other days.
If you decide you need all-seasons, the Kumho ASX is a good choice (and I would take it over the Falken Ziex ZE-512 or ZE-912 all-seasons).
If you decide you want summer tires, the Avon Tech M500 is a good choice, and so is the Kumho SPT (and I would take either one over the Falken FK-451 or FK-452 summer tires).
HTH</TD></TR></TABLE>
honestly, I dont care if they are all-seasons or summer tires.... we are at the beach, and if it snows, it never really sticks.....
I am basing my search off of price.... I am looking for the best value, but with fairly decent performance....
I understand you have to play to pay....just the 2 rear B-stones on my s2k were $400+
I know you really like the SPT's, and I know someone who is running them now, and he seems to like them....
we just dont want to put a lot of money into tires for a car that we may be trading in....
thank you for all of your help so far
Well, the first thing you need to ask yourself is whether you need summer tires or all-season tires. As noted in the FAQ topic stickied at the top of this forum:
I know that it occasionally snows in NC, not very often but once in a while. If you need to be out driving in those conditions, you ought to get all-seasons; if you can count on staying home (or maybe you have a truck/SUV to use on those days), you can get summer tires for higher performance on all the other days.
If you decide you need all-seasons, the Kumho ASX is a good choice (and I would take it over the Falken Ziex ZE-512 or ZE-912 all-seasons).
If you decide you want summer tires, the Avon Tech M500 is a good choice, and so is the Kumho SPT (and I would take either one over the Falken FK-451 or FK-452 summer tires).
HTH</TD></TR></TABLE>
honestly, I dont care if they are all-seasons or summer tires.... we are at the beach, and if it snows, it never really sticks.....
I am basing my search off of price.... I am looking for the best value, but with fairly decent performance....
I understand you have to play to pay....just the 2 rear B-stones on my s2k were $400+
I know you really like the SPT's, and I know someone who is running them now, and he seems to like them....
we just dont want to put a lot of money into tires for a car that we may be trading in....
thank you for all of your help so far
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Re: (homemadeturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by homemadeturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well the 512's are discontinued so you'd have to get the 912's. I have a pair of 512's on now for all season driving and they're great. I just purchased a pair of 912's and am looking forward to using them. I use the Azeni 615's in the summer on the front.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's a really REALLY bad idea to use mismatched tires where the performance is drastically different, front vs rear. The problem is that the handling is then unbalanced, and can change rapidly. For example, with the supersticky Falken Azenis RT-615 on the front and the crappy Falken Ziex ZE-512 or ZE-912 on the rear, on a warm summer day the front is going to grip much better than the rear. This results the condition called oversteer; when you go around a turn, the rear end has a tendency to swing around and cause the car to spin out. If it starts to rain, suddenly the rear is going to grip much better than the front. This results in the condition called understeer; when you go around a turn, you turn the steering wheel but the car has a tendency to instead plow straight ahead off the road. BAD IDEA. Use four tires of the same make and model, and if for some reason you can't (such as when a tire is discontinued), use four tires whose performance is as similar as possible.
It's a really REALLY bad idea to use mismatched tires where the performance is drastically different, front vs rear. The problem is that the handling is then unbalanced, and can change rapidly. For example, with the supersticky Falken Azenis RT-615 on the front and the crappy Falken Ziex ZE-512 or ZE-912 on the rear, on a warm summer day the front is going to grip much better than the rear. This results the condition called oversteer; when you go around a turn, the rear end has a tendency to swing around and cause the car to spin out. If it starts to rain, suddenly the rear is going to grip much better than the front. This results in the condition called understeer; when you go around a turn, you turn the steering wheel but the car has a tendency to instead plow straight ahead off the road. BAD IDEA. Use four tires of the same make and model, and if for some reason you can't (such as when a tire is discontinued), use four tires whose performance is as similar as possible.
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Re: Need to replace tires on wifes RSX-S (cmdr430)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmdr430 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we are at the beach, and if it snows, it never really sticks.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then get summer tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmdr430 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am basing my search off of price.... I am looking for the best value, but with fairly decent performance....
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we just dont want to put a lot of money into tires for a car that we may be trading in....</TD></TR></TABLE>
The SPT and the Tech M500 are both pretty inexpensive and offer great "bang for the buck". Either one is a good choice, even if you're going to be getting rid of the car soon.
Then get summer tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmdr430 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am basing my search off of price.... I am looking for the best value, but with fairly decent performance....
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we just dont want to put a lot of money into tires for a car that we may be trading in....</TD></TR></TABLE>
The SPT and the Tech M500 are both pretty inexpensive and offer great "bang for the buck". Either one is a good choice, even if you're going to be getting rid of the car soon.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by homemadeturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've never had any problems running different front and rear tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know, I've met a lot of people who do stupid things and claim that they never had any problems doing them. I've also met a lot of people who did stupid things and eventually ran into problems as a result (sometimes serious problems, including accidents). And they just hang their head, because they realize they should have known better when people told them it was a bad idea.
But hey, if you want to run mismatched tires, and think it's worth it to risk a major accident in order to save a hundred bucks on the right tires for your car, be my guest. And by doing so, you might even be eligible to win one of these nifty awards!
You know, I've met a lot of people who do stupid things and claim that they never had any problems doing them. I've also met a lot of people who did stupid things and eventually ran into problems as a result (sometimes serious problems, including accidents). And they just hang their head, because they realize they should have known better when people told them it was a bad idea.
But hey, if you want to run mismatched tires, and think it's worth it to risk a major accident in order to save a hundred bucks on the right tires for your car, be my guest. And by doing so, you might even be eligible to win one of these nifty awards!
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