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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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does anyone make a race tie rod end that uses sphearical bearings ??
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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SRR use too.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 03:48 AM
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you can have them made
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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does anyone know if the competition engineering kits are still available?
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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are you asking about these?

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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for the hondas you need to has have a cone shape like this, \ /, as that is how the casting in the knuckle is done.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for the hondas you need to has have a cone shape like this, \ /, as that is how the casting in the knuckle is done.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not if you drill out the taper.

Or change the taper to the GM size the stock car guys use and run one of these:
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not if you drill out the taper.

Or change the taper to the GM size the stock car guys use and run one of these:
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True.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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i have the competition engineering kit. You need to drill the taper out to 1/2" to use the kit.

It replaces the whole tie rod assembly with lightweight aluminum pieces, not just the tie rod ends so it saves some weight which is nice I guess.

edit: i can't find it anywhere on the Jegs website or Competition Engineering's website... Which is funny since I just bought it this summer.... They must have discontinued it really recently.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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I've thought about going that route as well, but its a grey area in the HC rules. Not sure its a fight I could win...
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've thought about going that route as well, but its a grey area in the HC rules. Not sure its a fight I could win...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought about using them too. It's not in the rules????

several HC guys use them.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecjj &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I thought about using them too. It's not in the rules????

several HC guys use them.

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eh i'd through them on, considering suspension bushings are free. I'd make the argument that a ball joint is a suspension bushing.

It is just the drilling of the knuckle that, puts it out of the legal realm for me.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 06:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Jones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the competition engineering kit. You need to drill the taper out to 1/2" to use the kit.

It replaces the whole tie rod assembly with lightweight aluminum pieces, not just the tie rod ends so it saves some weight which is nice I guess.

edit: i can't find it anywhere on the Jegs website or Competition Engineering's website... Which is funny since I just bought it this summer.... They must have discontinued it really recently.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you have this kit?its listed but for mustangs only. did they have a honda kit before?
No. C2418
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 06:17 AM
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Yes, they did have a kit before. Totally different than the Mustang kit.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 06:26 AM
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huh, welp back to me piecing something together.. thanks for the confirmation thoe.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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Found it.

http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Jones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the competition engineering kit. You need to drill the taper out to 1/2" to use the kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Your car wouldn't happen to be an EF, would it? I see the kit is intended for the EG and EK, but I want it for the EF. If your car is EG/EK, could you please take a measurement for me? I'm looking to get the overall length of the inner/outer tie rod assembly; similar to the measurement that Competition Engineering asks you to take during the installation of the kit.

Step 3 from "Disassembly": http://static.summitracing.com...0.pdf

Thanks

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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Your car wouldn't happen to be an EF, would it? I see the kit is intended for the EG and EK, but I want it for the EF. If your car is EG/EK, could you please take a measurement for me? I'm looking to get the overall length of the inner/outer tie rod assembly; similar to the measurement that Competition Engineering asks you to take during the installation of the kit.

Step 3 from "Disassembly": http://static.summitracing.com...0.pdf

Thanks

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competition engineering tie rod tube = roughly 8.5" long
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Jones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

competition engineering tie rod tube = roughly 8.5" long </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks, but I was after the overall length of the tie rod assembly so I could see if they are long enough or too long for the EF.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thanks, but I was after the overall length of the tie rod assembly so I could see if they are long enough or too long for the EF.</TD></TR></TABLE>

cut and re-thread if its too long.


Too short would be the only issue
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
cut and re-thread if its too long.
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From the looks of things, the tubing has a threaded stub welded into either end. This probably wouldn't work.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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even easier, cut and re-weld!!!
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">even easier, cut and re-weld!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Either way, I could lengthen (add tubing) or shorten. I was hoping to avoid any fab at all. I'm pressed for time. If I'm going to fab, I'll fab it 100%.

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Semi-on-topic question:

Can kits like the CE ones be used to flip the tie rod end to the bottom of the knuckle arm to help fix bump steer?
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spAdam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Semi-on-topic question:

Can kits like the CE ones be used to flip the tie rod end to the bottom of the knuckle arm to help fix bump steer?</TD></TR></TABLE>

absolutely.
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