Ok so as I stated before, I'm going to just reveal all the info to everyone. I'm not going to be a middle man since I know no one on here is going to trust me. I hope this shows everyone on here that I am here only to be helpful and to contribute to Honda-tech.com!

The converters are made in Hungary and forget it they wont deal direct, I tried.

Everyone can call:

(613) 384-4521
sales@XTSportbikeAccessories.com
http://www.speedohealercanada.com

Just mention Bruno from Club5252 gave you the contact...I would appreciate this because it will make it easier for me to open an account with him for our company later on, since I still have to open one for myself and the three customers that are waiting for the converter.....

Well there it is guys, make sure you explain to them what you need the converter for so he knows the application.

 

can one of the mods.....sticky this thread so people can find it?

 

You are the man! Thanks for stepping up and trying to help us all out. Time to clean up this mess for everyone waiting for a converter.

 

no worries!

after gaugeing the interest for another group buy by me, i noticed that no one is going to trust me...so i decided it's better to just give the info away.

 

Props to you on helping out the HT community man .

So pretty much call the company and they'll pick out the correct speedohealer for our application? I'll be sure to mention your name man, and thanks again!

 

i will def sticky this when it's confirmed that this works as a viable source...

 

Yeah, my only concern is the operating parameters for the standard speedohealer only go up to 99.9% of the VSS input whereas the S2k cluster requires larger-than-(+)99.9% incremented values in order to function properly (that's my understanding of it at least). As seen in the following table:



found here: http://www.team-integra.net/fo...ion=1

I'll give the company a call tomorrow if I get a break from school/work to see what's up though.

 

I looked around the speedohealer site and it lists S2000 and Civic in their applications.
Does that mean it'll work for us?

 

Well, seeing as the official speedohealer page lists the adjustability from -99.99% to +99.99% of the input signal...and the older style-VSS puts out only approximately 1/30-1/40th of the S2000 pulses for any given speed (with the exception of 0mph), I doubt the speedohealer would work unless they came out with a revised or custom unit that could amplify the pulses per any given speed from 0-40x.

The original reason why most electronically inclined wanted to purchase from yellaboi:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yellaboi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The company that is producing this is Healtech Electronics. They are the makers of the Speedohealer for sportbikes. http://www.speedohealer.com

The have been in business for years and I have used their products many times. The converter is a custom version that they made after discussing the needs to make the s2k cluster work. It has 100 times extended range than their regular speedohealer. This version is not available to retailers and distributors yet. That is why I am offering a groupbuy. The groupbuy price is significantly lower than the price you will pay for this unit once it is available. And as I said in a previous post. I AM MAKING NO PROFIT FROM THIS!!

And to be honest I didn't say the name because they asked me not to because their distributors don't know about this new version. It won't be available to them for another 5weeks. So help me keep my secret. Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

Apparently he posted that the original manufacturer of the speedohealer came out with an application just for us wanting to retrofit an s2k gauge cluster using a "standard" VSS. The truth behind that statement/the company's willingness to create something custom just for us I have no idea about.


Modified by 1989CivicSi at 2:15 AM 1/18/2008

 

watching, waiting...

 

There may be hope.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedohealer.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then I learned about the SpeedoHealer device. My friend told me about it, but I suggested to him it wouldn't work because it only had +/-100% adjustment. He then told me about the custom versions you manufacture, so then I thought there might be hope! I searched the site and found the testimonial from the Harley rider with his speedo conversion, and he talked about his success with the SpeedoHealer.



Based on his positive story, I went ahead and placed my order and it arrived in about a week, well packaged and in good condition.

(I ordered a unit with 0 to +999.9% calibration range, and with ability to convert between km/h and mph.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Taken from: http://www.speedohealer.com/yo...l.htm

I'll try calling the company today or e-mailing them to inquire about a custom unit for our application with a wider calibration range...if they tailored for the needs of that single customer hopefully they'll tailor for ours .

 

Update: Just shot out a detailed e-mail to the people at speedohealer about our needs for a custom application . If their claim about a 24 hour response time is correct then I'll get back to you guys within 24 hours with their reply

*edit* I feel like an idiot. The information was there the whole time:

"Pricing examples

- Custom SH kit with extended calibration range (1/1000 to x100) 93 EUR"

Just waiting on their response for the specs of the custom unit then it's off to ordering for less than the price of other/the other s2k converter on the market . +1 for mass production.

 

bump so your saying they dont have the convertor we need in stock, has anyone talked to the company yet?

 

Just got the e-mail back from Heeltech electronics (they make the speedohealer):


"The SHv4 is the upcoming SH model which will be released soon and it will
work fine for your application.
This unit has extended calibration range so there is no need for a custom v3
model.

Kind Regards,
/Norbert"

So pretty much, don't fret guys, once the SpeedoHealer Version 4 comes out (e-mailed back asking when it will be released...will get back to you guys later on this). It will work perfectly for our application!

Sorry kinda buzzed right now but...(cliffnotes: wait for SHV4 to come out and there you have it...s2000 cluster converter box for $100 shipped. Helluvalot better than the 170$ or so other people are asking for it .

 

hey, someone out there actually does look at my work. My name is Kong Xiong. I just made up Kong Xiong R&D research to ID my work later. Thats my chart.



I am currently trying to build this speedo converter. I don't think this "easy fix" will solve your problems because the correction error between the B series tranny Vss and S200 tranny Vss is too great. Besides that only solves one of two problems if this does work. You still have the temperature promblem to worry about.

Well watever...i am still currently making a single unit that will solve everything and i will be developing, prototyping, and installing it in my car. Oh yeah and its going to be a DIY for all. So you all may want to wait a couple of months.

i am new here but well known on Clubintegra.com

here is the link to the build
http://www.clubintegra.com/boa...17467


Modified by konerri at 8:56 PM 1/18/2008

 

Let me know when we can order!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by konerri &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You still have the temperature promblem to worry about.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm, I'm still thinking of doing this in my prelude. Now, my lude has a digital gauge for the temp + fuel (92-96 model). I wonder if the temp sensor on the h22a is any different than the b/d series (probably not). Or maybe I can use the signal from that gauge to go to the s2k gauge... ehh, it's late I'm hittin the sack (maybe looking into the specs of the 92-96 prelude digital temp/gas gauge might help with this scenario???). I'm still waiting on a ap2 cluster personally, lol don't think my h22 likes 9k rpm anyways hahaha.

-l8r

 

Why does everyone want something for nothing. Not a terrible thing, but I've put a lot of work into making the converter work and getting these out, along with a ton of technical support and advice. Everyone wants a converter but nobody thinks it's worth paying for?? All I see is complaints. Nobody even knows if this unit will actually work reliably. Mine are made in the USA and made by the people who actually care if they work and support their products after the fact. You think I can afford to constantly answer 10-30 questions a day about this conversion if I'm not selling any of these? This is how little businesses in the USA go OUT of business. Because everyone is too cheap to realize that it's important where their money is spent. This is why shops I have worked for go out of business because everyone wants to group buy crap products over the internet instead of supporting the local speed shops who built this industry and suffered and bled to make this entire thing happen!
Maybe I'm just a little jaded, but I hope people out there will know that paying a little more for a better product with proper customer service is always better in the end.

Dave

 

Don't get me wrong, Dave, but I would've purchased your converter a long time ago if not for the exceptionally long wait and the price tag. Granted that you took the time to thoroughly research and develop your product, I still wouldn't pay $170 shipped for it knowing that there is an equivalent product for sale at $100. If say you had the converter in stock constantly at perhaps a $140 price tag then people wouldn't have been attempting this entire time to search out an alternative (supply and demand). It's just by chance that the alternative happened to be at 58.8% the cost of your product. If this converter doesn't work out I'll still search out another alternative (probably ask my peers in electrical engineering). Money goes a long way when you're living off of $20 for food per week on average.

 

I know it's rough, I'm also working on a way to lower the cost of my product. This is a side project for me that was, for a while at least, paying a few of my bills... That's all. The stock issue really hasn't been my fault, but it's hard to not receive blame for that one. And still, nobody has tested this product in this situation, my manufacturer knows of the company as they are basically direct competition, and has studied their product in detail. He tells me there is nothing to worry about on my end, our product is superior in engineering and quality, which should shine through in the end.

 

First I'd like to thank dave for getting a converter up and running and in the hands of everyone who was willing to pay. Dave was the only game in town and the laws of supply and demand dictated that he could charge whatever he wanted. However, I don't think he was trying to get rich off his contribution to the honda world.

Personally the cost was too much for me so I've been waiting for it to get cheaper. Dave, If you can solve your supply issues and drop the price a bit, then you are going to sell tons of these converters before the speedohealer comes out.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16A1-EF9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok so as I stated before, I'm going to just reveal all the info to everyone. I'm not going to be a middle man since I know no one on here is going to trust me. I hope this shows everyone on here that I am here only to be helpful and to contribute to Honda-tech.com!

The converters are made in Hungary and forget it they wont deal direct, I tried.

Everyone can call:

(613) 384-4521
sales@XTSportbikeAccessories.com
http://www.speedohealercanada.com

Just mention Bruno from Club5252 gave you the contact...I would appreciate this because it will make it easier for me to open an account with him for our company later on, since I still have to open one for myself and the three customers that are waiting for the converter.....

Well there it is guys, make sure you explain to them what you need the converter for so he knows the application.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey i just order one, they didn't send me any custom one just the reg. one would this work still?

i know you have the s2000 cluster in your EK, are you using the reg. v3.0?

Thanks

Lewis

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by untuned &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hey i just order one, they didn't send me any custom one just the reg. one would this work still?

i know you have the s2000 cluster in your EK, are you using the reg. v3.0?

Thanks

Lewis</TD></TR></TABLE>

I hate to say it, but the V3.0 <U>Will Not Work</U>.. I made the exact same mistake a few days ago... Call up xtsportbike and return it.

<U>For those who are a little lost:</U>

V3 - (Discontinued) Unit with only +99% range, this wont work with S2K cluster swaps.

V3-C8 - (Discontinued) This was a custom V3 unit with +999% range, this <u>would</u> have worked with S2K cluster swaps however they are no longer made.

V4 - (North American Distributors are now taking pre-orders, units expected to ship around Mid-February) The V4 is basically a new and improved unit with extended range that will be replacing both previous units. This is said to work for S2K cluster swaps by Speedohealer themselves

Here is the new V4 unit



Both Calsportbike and Solomotoparts are now taking SH-V4 pre-orders for US/Canada
*Make sure you order with the Universal Harness, we're driving cars not sportbikes!*
http://www.calsportbike.com/cg...=1988
http://www.solomotoparts.com/c....html

I ordered mine from solomoto because they aren't affiliated with with those brown shipping crooks.. Cant wait till it gets here!!!!

 

its got to be the custom or the SHv4, i got 4 of the v4's coming in next week

 

great input thanks man