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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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B18C5
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S2 Pro1s
S2 Pro Cam Gears

First off, this is my first all motor car. Ive dealt with turbo for a while now and i dont know the ins and outs of the NA world yet. Please dont jump on me because i did search and i couldnt find my answers.

I just put the cams and gears in as the last ones were stolen before i bought the car. The Intake and Exhaust gears are set @ 0 and 0. When i start the car it idles fine and revs fine. When i take it for a ride and come to a stop it dies. Is this a possible vacuum issue or a cam timing issue?
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slambedcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18C5
11.5:1
S2 Pro1s
S2 Pro Cam Gears

First off, this is my first all motor car. Ive dealt with turbo for a while now and i dont know the ins and outs of the NA world yet. Please dont jump on me because i did search and i couldnt find my answers.

I just put the cams and gears in as the last ones were stolen before i bought the car. The Intake and Exhaust gears are set @ 0 and 0. When i start the car it idles fine and revs fine. When i take it for a ride and come to a stop it dies. Is this a possible vacuum issue or a cam timing issue?
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Usually this can be fixed by adding some timing into the decel area of the timing map.

You might also want to try adding some IACV duty cycle to keep the RPMs up a bit.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Default Re: built ITR. dies when coming down to idle. cam timing? (93turbo16)

is there anything that i should be doing with my cam timing though?

i dont have a burner to edit my base.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Default Re: built ITR. dies when coming down to idle. cam timing? (slambedcivic)

Advance the EX cam 2 degrees or so. (counter-clock)
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Advance the EX cam 2 degrees or so. (counter-clock)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Reducing _ _ _ _ _ _ _ !
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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hangman? lol.

so bump the exhaust 2deg and leave the intake alone?
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Reducing _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ! </TD></TR></TABLE> Or increasing _ _ _ _ _ _!
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slambedcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hangman? lol.

so bump the exhaust 2deg and leave the intake alone?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what the man said. Do we need the Master of the Universe to come in and shout it in a Cajun accent?
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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c'mon now. ive got more common sense than most people on here and have been messing with these cars for some years now. i understand what he said but my question was wether or not to leave the intake alone or not...

now that that is out of the way, should i do the intake +2 and exhaust -2?
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slambedcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">c'mon now. ive got more common sense than most people on here and have been messing with these cars for some years now. i understand what he said but my question was wether or not to leave the intake alone or not...

now that that is out of the way, should i do the intake +2 and exhaust -2?</TD></TR></TABLE>

do that... the car can end up with a very rough idle... forever
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris Tune &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

do that... the car can end up with a very rough idle... forever </TD></TR></TABLE>

can i just get a straight answer?

to add to this the car had S2S2's with UR cam gears that were stolen. i just want some direction with this.

if im understanding correctly as this thread is going.... i should do one or the other? not both?
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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jason
dont just go jumping into adjusting cam gears without making sure there is good clearanc,e (expecially ) when vtec is engaging, u could end up with bent valves and be SOL

call me i can explain, but call me tomorrow

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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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thanks for the help dan.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Default Re: built ITR. dies when coming down to idle. cam timing? (slambedcivic)

Please read my reply. ADVANCE the EX. Leave the IN alone. Advance is not the same as Retard. Or just just do what you were going to do anyway.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please read my reply. ADVANCE the EX. Leave the IN alone. Advance is not the same as Retard. Or just just do what you were going to do anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This will definitely help as well. It will get you by until you can get it tuned.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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thank you guys very much!
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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I know its old but maybe i can still help. +3* intake and +4* exhaust are what skunk2 recommends as Quick settings

http://www.skunk2.com/cgi-bin/...ng=en

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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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the pro series cam gear marks represent 1* while the tuner series represent 2*
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