wat do you guys think is the best things to buy to gain a lot of horsepower wile saving money....need advise i was thinkin of buyin headers , and a manifold and an intake i have a stock gsr would it do anygood kinda on a budget....

 

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certainly not what you listed

making power isnt cheap. being cheap doesnt make power. you get the idea.

 

yes, basic bolt on's are a good way to start, i.e. intake, header, exhaust,and intake manifold even though alot of people on here will tell you that an intake manifold is pointless if you dont have cams. also what you should consider is some form of engine management like hondata or even just a chip will help out some before you start getting into internals.
hope that helps

 

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To be perfectly honest, there's really no way to have both, without sacrificing huge amounts of longevity. You're looking at maybe 20whp with high quality bolt-ons, but since you're looking for "money saving options", you probably won't see that much.

My advice is, that if you're truly serious about upgrading the performance of your car, save your money and do it right.

 

edelbrock header with 2.5 collector, straight pipe to itr axleback.
trust me you'll feel a lot more torque and overall power.
it's the best mod i did to my gsr.
and it didn't cost much either.

a more expensive mod was switching over to the ITR transmission.
the closer gearing + LSD was awesome.

 

Get hondata and find a good tuner to remap the car. This is a good starting point to realise the potential of what you already have. Bolt on's unless tuned properly will just make more noise adding to that placebo effect.

 

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i beg to differ.

i think i'd rather get everything bolted on, and then tune.

 

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I like this idea too. Stock engines tend to be down tuned from the factory. Tuning will bring out more overall power than some bolts ons that you spent 2000 dollars on that only gain in certain aspects of the engines operating range.

 

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I like this idea too. Stock engines tend to be down tuned from the factory. Tuning will bring out more overall power than some bolts ons that you spent 2000 dollars on that only gain in certain aspects of the engines operating range.</TD></TR></TABLE>

edelbrock header with collector 2.5 collector mod 300
straight pipe 50
AEM CAIntake 100 http://www.hondamarketplace.co...81131
ITR axleback 200 ish?

total bolt on cost if you install yourself 650

ask any tuner..it's more ideal to tune your vehicle AFTER the bolt ons. by doing this you're maximing airflow before tuning. otherwise you'll have to pay for tuning TWICE, which isn't that cheap..if you get bolt ons installed AFTER you tune your stock setup.

i don't know what the f(_)ck bolt ons you're trying to get by 2g's.
if i was to spend 2g's, i'd be building up a b20vtec.

 

i am a tuner.....

typical custom headers run in the 1g range. Add up the rest of the "bolt ons"....given you purchase new, and you reach 2000 pretty easily.

tune now, reek the benefits of better gas milege, increased throttle response at all areas, more power everywhere.....save money a do a build.

 

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typical custom headers run in the 1g range. Add up the rest of the "bolt ons"....given you purchase new, and you reach 2000 pretty easily.

tune now, reek the benefits of better gas milege, increased throttle response at all areas, more power everywhere.....save money a do a build.

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depends what his budget is. he doesn't sound like he has plans for a custom build..he's just asking about bolt ons. the hytech replica header performs and it costs under 300. the header i'm suggesting performed on par with SMSP's custom header on an LS/VTEC setup built by pro street. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1203006

lsvtec w/smsp header: 217whp, 143 tq
same setup w/edelbrock w/2.5 mod: 215, 145 tq

not bad for a header that can be had for well under 300 IMO

 

HP IS not CHEAP

 

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depends what his budget is. he doesn't sound like he has plans for a custom build..he's just asking about bolt ons. the hytech replica header performs and it costs under 300. the header i'm suggesting performed on par with SMSP's custom header on an LS/VTEC setup built by pro street. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1203006

lsvtec w/smsp header: 217whp, 143 tq
same setup w/edelbrock w/2.5 mod: 215, 145 tq

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that was two years ago.....look at how much has changed over the last two years. If making power was that simple, people would stop paying a grand for custom exhaust manifolds.

it takes approx 500 dollars or less to get fully tuned on Crome. Tuning time is not that expensive. Besides depending if he is OBDI or not, he is already setup to get tuned. All he needs is chipping and socketing. So if he is already OBDI, knock off 100 dollars or so from the ~500.

I wish i would have had someone to tell me to not waste my money on bolt ons and focus on the big picture (which includes bolt ons, just not near to the extent of asking which intake is best....). I'd have alot more money as of now.

I could have gotten tuned, saved money because of the extra MPG and still beaten up on people in stock form.

 

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that was two years ago.....look at how much has changed over the last two years. If making power was that simple, people would stop paying a grand for custom exhaust manifolds.

it takes approx 500 dollars or less to get fully tuned on Crome. Tuning time is not that expensive. Besides depending if he is OBDI or not, he is already setup to get tuned. All he needs is chipping and socketing. So if he is already OBDI, knock off 100 dollars or so from the ~500.

I wish i would have had someone to tell me to not waste my money on bolt ons and focus on the big picture (which includes bolt ons, just not near to the extent of asking which intake is best....). I'd have alot more money as of now.

I could have gotten tuned, saved money because of the extra MPG and still beaten up on people in stock form.

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either way, i still think it's a waste of money to tune BEFORE bolt on's on a stock setup, thousand dollar header or not, than tuning AFTER bolt on's.

if you tune beforehand, you've maximized your current setup..and your only options are to start with the bolt ons and re-tune. even if you build a b20vtec, or sleeve the block, it's logical to have bolt ons.

and yes, that build that i linked is 2 years old...none of those modifications on that build are obsolete..in fact, a lot are still used today.
after all, b series has been around since like '93?

 

turbo is the best engine mod