Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd
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Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd
I'm running 16 inch rota's, or aka Subzero's. They're great rims which sooner or later are going to be repowdercoated. I'm currently running falken 205/16/50 right now tires, they're the ziex tires.
However, these tires are not gripping or too small for the amount of power being put down. There's no 1/2 gear and when its rainning i'm forced to take off from a light in 3rd or 4th lol.. so i'm looking for a good tire. I have quite a some of money coming back from tax return, and i'm looking for pretty much top of the line tires something 215+ too. any ideas? whats some tires you run, i'm looking really tho, for brands that i know work..
Falken
Kumho
toyo
hancook
**** like that any ideas would be fine...
However, these tires are not gripping or too small for the amount of power being put down. There's no 1/2 gear and when its rainning i'm forced to take off from a light in 3rd or 4th lol.. so i'm looking for a good tire. I have quite a some of money coming back from tax return, and i'm looking for pretty much top of the line tires something 215+ too. any ideas? whats some tires you run, i'm looking really tho, for brands that i know work..
Falken
Kumho
toyo
hancook
**** like that any ideas would be fine...
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Re: Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd (IntegraType-R)
You'll have to give a lot more info of what you want out of a tire other then grip?
Will it see snow?
How long must it last?
Cost?
DOT legal?
is loud ok?
rain ?
track being drag auto x or road racing?
Personally, since this is HT and just shouting random things out is cool, I love my S03s.
Will it see snow?
How long must it last?
Cost?
DOT legal?
is loud ok?
rain ?
track being drag auto x or road racing?
Personally, since this is HT and just shouting random things out is cool, I love my S03s.
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Re: Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd (***$nyper)
ziex with that king power level?
I have a set of hankook rs2 in 15 inch with 210whp/150wtq.These tires are not that bad
Modified by flesh199 at 5:42 PM 1/12/2008
I have a set of hankook rs2 in 15 inch with 210whp/150wtq.These tires are not that bad
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Re: Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd (IntegraType-R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's no 1/2 gear and when its rainning i'm forced to take off from a light in 3rd or 4th lol.. so i'm looking for a good tire. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Learning to modulate the throttle would be you biggest help......
I drive my hatch in the snow and have no problems pulling out in 1st gear same power levels as you. Sounds to me like either your tires are completely bald or driving a clutch owns you.
Learning to modulate the throttle would be you biggest help......
I drive my hatch in the snow and have no problems pulling out in 1st gear same power levels as you. Sounds to me like either your tires are completely bald or driving a clutch owns you.
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Re: Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd (Natural Aspirations)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Natural Aspirations »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Learning to modulate the throttle would be you biggest help......
I drive my hatch in the snow and have no problems pulling out in 1st gear same power levels as you. Sounds to me like either your tires are completely bald or driving a clutch owns you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
HAHA as harsh as that may sound I would have to agree man. I could drive my bro's old B series setup that made 250 on some cheezy 205s and while it wasnt the best, it wasnt as outrageous as starting out in 3rd gear haha.
I have always loved falken tires on all my cars, but maybe its time for a dragradial like the BFs for your car if you choose to do so
Learning to modulate the throttle would be you biggest help......
I drive my hatch in the snow and have no problems pulling out in 1st gear same power levels as you. Sounds to me like either your tires are completely bald or driving a clutch owns you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
HAHA as harsh as that may sound I would have to agree man. I could drive my bro's old B series setup that made 250 on some cheezy 205s and while it wasnt the best, it wasnt as outrageous as starting out in 3rd gear haha.
I have always loved falken tires on all my cars, but maybe its time for a dragradial like the BFs for your car if you choose to do so
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I am running 205/50/15 BFG RE-01R's on my ~200whp hatch. Seem to do the job quite well. First gear is a little rough but the rest hooks up just fine.
I wouldn't mind trying some RT-615's next.
I wouldn't mind trying some RT-615's next.
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Re: Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd (2fastGSR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2fastGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
HAHA as harsh as that may sound I would have to agree man. I could drive my bro's old B series setup that made 250 on some cheezy 205s and while it wasnt the best, it wasnt as outrageous as starting out in 3rd gear haha.
I have always loved falken tires on all my cars, but maybe its time for a dragradial like the BFs for your car if you choose to do so </TD></TR></TABLE> Bald summer only 245s in the snow in a near 400 WHP camaro beat that 
Only cause we are having a brag fest for poor weather driving
HAHA as harsh as that may sound I would have to agree man. I could drive my bro's old B series setup that made 250 on some cheezy 205s and while it wasnt the best, it wasnt as outrageous as starting out in 3rd gear haha.
I have always loved falken tires on all my cars, but maybe its time for a dragradial like the BFs for your car if you choose to do so
</TD></TR></TABLE> Bald summer only 245s in the snow in a near 400 WHP camaro beat that Only cause we are having a brag fest for poor weather driving
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Re: Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd (***$nyper)
No snow, rain and mostly dry, i'm down here in louisiana so judge for yourself.
I'm running a stage 2 excedy, stock itr flywheel. I know how to drive, specially with this car.. Nothing "owns" me.. noise doesn't matter i want something that grips period..in mostly dry condition and something i can catch traction i love spinning tires..but come on..
No autoX just mostly str8 line, driving and crusing.
I do daily drive the car but was looking at some BG Good rich drags or nitto's but i dont know.
I'm running a stage 2 excedy, stock itr flywheel. I know how to drive, specially with this car.. Nothing "owns" me.. noise doesn't matter i want something that grips period..in mostly dry condition and something i can catch traction i love spinning tires..but come on..
No autoX just mostly str8 line, driving and crusing.
I do daily drive the car but was looking at some BG Good rich drags or nitto's but i dont know.
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Re: Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd (IntegraType-R)
Well, first of all, the Ziex is a poor choice. It's a cheap all-season tire, designed for those who can't spend a lot of money on their tires. The performance level is just not very good, even for an all-season tire. And all-seasons are a compromise to begin with, offering worse performance (in moderate to warm temperatures) than summer tires, in exchange for the temperature flexibility to be used in snow and frigid cold. Since you live in LA, you can get summer tires and their higher performance, and you don't need all-seasons.
For an ITR (a car I have a lot of familiarity with) with 16" wheels, you need to get 205/45-16 or 215/45-16. Those are the sizes that fit properly without rubbing, that won't throw off your gauges or reduce your acceleration. Most tires come in one size or the other, not both. Don't worry about tread width; what really matters is which tire model you choose, not the tread width. A stickier tire in a slightly narrower size will always provide much better performance than a less sticky tire in a wider size. So concentrate on getting the highest performance tires you can.
The problem you then run into is this. No one tire does everything the best. So, for the track driving and overall performance, you have supersticky street tires like the Falken Azenis RT-615 and Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R, which have great dry traction. Their downsides are that they're not that great in rain, and they don't last all that long (10-12K miles). You also have R compound track tires, that are even stickier for the track, but their poor treadlife and rain performance make them ill-suited for street use. OTOH you have tires that do well in rain and last longer, but their dry performance isn't quite as good as the RT-615 or RE-01R.
One way around this conundrum is to get a second set of wheels, and two sets of tires. That gives you the best of both worlds; you can get a set of supersticky street tires or R compound track tires to use when you're at the track, and a set of longer-lasting high performance street tires to use when you're driving around town.
Here's my advice to you. If you can only get ONE tire, and you have to use it for the track as well as for daily driving, including a lot of rainy days like you have in LA, get the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in 205/45-16 ($136/tire at the Tire Rack). The dry performance is excellent - not quite as good as the Azenis but reasonably close. The wet performance is superb, one of the best wet tires you can buy. And it lasts a reasonably long time (20-35K miles). It's not cheap, but it's worth every penny.
If you really, really care about the performance on the track (or in aggressive driving around town), you can consider the Falken Azenis RT-615 in 215/45-16 ($90/tire at Vulcan) or the Bridgestone RE-01R in 205/45-16 ($151/tire at the Tire Rack). These are the two stickiest street tires you can buy. The RE-01R has slightly better performance, but costs a lot more. Neither of these is going to be all that great in driving in rain, though. And they won't last all that long (figure 10-12K miles).
All of these three are excellent summer tires, and will enable you to take advantage of your high-horsepower application.
I do not recommend drag radials, even for your track use. Drag radials are designed for the dragstrip, not for the track. If you go to the dragstrip, they're an excellent choice - but they're not very good for street use, due to rapid treadwear and poor traction in rain.
For an ITR (a car I have a lot of familiarity with) with 16" wheels, you need to get 205/45-16 or 215/45-16. Those are the sizes that fit properly without rubbing, that won't throw off your gauges or reduce your acceleration. Most tires come in one size or the other, not both. Don't worry about tread width; what really matters is which tire model you choose, not the tread width. A stickier tire in a slightly narrower size will always provide much better performance than a less sticky tire in a wider size. So concentrate on getting the highest performance tires you can.
The problem you then run into is this. No one tire does everything the best. So, for the track driving and overall performance, you have supersticky street tires like the Falken Azenis RT-615 and Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R, which have great dry traction. Their downsides are that they're not that great in rain, and they don't last all that long (10-12K miles). You also have R compound track tires, that are even stickier for the track, but their poor treadlife and rain performance make them ill-suited for street use. OTOH you have tires that do well in rain and last longer, but their dry performance isn't quite as good as the RT-615 or RE-01R.
One way around this conundrum is to get a second set of wheels, and two sets of tires. That gives you the best of both worlds; you can get a set of supersticky street tires or R compound track tires to use when you're at the track, and a set of longer-lasting high performance street tires to use when you're driving around town.
Here's my advice to you. If you can only get ONE tire, and you have to use it for the track as well as for daily driving, including a lot of rainy days like you have in LA, get the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in 205/45-16 ($136/tire at the Tire Rack). The dry performance is excellent - not quite as good as the Azenis but reasonably close. The wet performance is superb, one of the best wet tires you can buy. And it lasts a reasonably long time (20-35K miles). It's not cheap, but it's worth every penny.
If you really, really care about the performance on the track (or in aggressive driving around town), you can consider the Falken Azenis RT-615 in 215/45-16 ($90/tire at Vulcan) or the Bridgestone RE-01R in 205/45-16 ($151/tire at the Tire Rack). These are the two stickiest street tires you can buy. The RE-01R has slightly better performance, but costs a lot more. Neither of these is going to be all that great in driving in rain, though. And they won't last all that long (figure 10-12K miles).
All of these three are excellent summer tires, and will enable you to take advantage of your high-horsepower application.
I do not recommend drag radials, even for your track use. Drag radials are designed for the dragstrip, not for the track. If you go to the dragstrip, they're an excellent choice - but they're not very good for street use, due to rapid treadwear and poor traction in rain.
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Re: Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd (nsxtasy)
Originally Posted by nsxtasy
Well, first of all, the Ziex is a poor choice. It's a cheap all-season tire, designed for those who can't spend a lot of money on their tires. The performance level is just not very good, even for an all-season tire. And all-seasons are a compromise to begin with, offering worse performance (in moderate to warm temperatures) than summer tires, in exchange for the temperature flexibility to be used in snow and frigid cold. Since you live in LA, you can get summer tires and their higher performance, and you don't need all-seasons.
For an ITR (a car I have a lot of familiarity with) with 16" wheels, you need to get 205/45-16 or 215/45-16. Those are the sizes that fit properly without rubbing, that won't throw off your gauges or reduce your acceleration. Most tires come in one size or the other, not both. Don't worry about tread width; what really matters is which tire model you choose, not the tread width. A stickier tire in a slightly narrower size will always provide much better performance than a less sticky tire in a wider size. So concentrate on getting the highest performance tires you can.
The problem you then run into is this. No one tire does everything the best. So, for the track driving and overall performance, you have supersticky street tires like the Falken Azenis RT-615 and Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R, which have great dry traction. Their downsides are that they're not that great in rain, and they don't last all that long (10-12K miles). You also have R compound track tires, that are even stickier for the track, but their poor treadlife and rain performance make them ill-suited for street use. OTOH you have tires that do well in rain and last longer, but their dry performance isn't quite as good as the RT-615 or RE-01R.
One way around this conundrum is to get a second set of wheels, and two sets of tires. That gives you the best of both worlds; you can get a set of supersticky street tires or R compound track tires to use when you're at the track, and a set of longer-lasting high performance street tires to use when you're driving around town.
Here's my advice to you. If you can only get ONE tire, and you have to use it for the track as well as for daily driving, including a lot of rainy days like you have in LA, get the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in 205/45-16 ($136/tire at the Tire Rack). The dry performance is excellent - not quite as good as the Azenis but reasonably close. The wet performance is superb, one of the best wet tires you can buy. And it lasts a reasonably long time (20-35K miles). It's not cheap, but it's worth every penny.
If you really, really care about the performance on the track (or in aggressive driving around town), you can consider the Falken Azenis RT-615 in 215/45-16 ($90/tire at Vulcan) or the Bridgestone RE-01R in 205/45-16 ($151/tire at the Tire Rack). These are the two stickiest street tires you can buy. The RE-01R has slightly better performance, but costs a lot more. Neither of these is going to be all that great in driving in rain, though. And they won't last all that long (figure 10-12K miles).
All of these three are excellent summer tires, and will enable you to take advantage of your high-horsepower application.
I do not recommend drag radials, even for your track use. Drag radials are designed for the dragstrip, not for the track. If you go to the dragstrip, they're an excellent choice - but they're not very good for street use, due to rapid treadwear and poor traction in rain.
For an ITR (a car I have a lot of familiarity with) with 16" wheels, you need to get 205/45-16 or 215/45-16. Those are the sizes that fit properly without rubbing, that won't throw off your gauges or reduce your acceleration. Most tires come in one size or the other, not both. Don't worry about tread width; what really matters is which tire model you choose, not the tread width. A stickier tire in a slightly narrower size will always provide much better performance than a less sticky tire in a wider size. So concentrate on getting the highest performance tires you can.
The problem you then run into is this. No one tire does everything the best. So, for the track driving and overall performance, you have supersticky street tires like the Falken Azenis RT-615 and Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R, which have great dry traction. Their downsides are that they're not that great in rain, and they don't last all that long (10-12K miles). You also have R compound track tires, that are even stickier for the track, but their poor treadlife and rain performance make them ill-suited for street use. OTOH you have tires that do well in rain and last longer, but their dry performance isn't quite as good as the RT-615 or RE-01R.
One way around this conundrum is to get a second set of wheels, and two sets of tires. That gives you the best of both worlds; you can get a set of supersticky street tires or R compound track tires to use when you're at the track, and a set of longer-lasting high performance street tires to use when you're driving around town.
Here's my advice to you. If you can only get ONE tire, and you have to use it for the track as well as for daily driving, including a lot of rainy days like you have in LA, get the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in 205/45-16 ($136/tire at the Tire Rack). The dry performance is excellent - not quite as good as the Azenis but reasonably close. The wet performance is superb, one of the best wet tires you can buy. And it lasts a reasonably long time (20-35K miles). It's not cheap, but it's worth every penny.
If you really, really care about the performance on the track (or in aggressive driving around town), you can consider the Falken Azenis RT-615 in 215/45-16 ($90/tire at Vulcan) or the Bridgestone RE-01R in 205/45-16 ($151/tire at the Tire Rack). These are the two stickiest street tires you can buy. The RE-01R has slightly better performance, but costs a lot more. Neither of these is going to be all that great in driving in rain, though. And they won't last all that long (figure 10-12K miles).
All of these three are excellent summer tires, and will enable you to take advantage of your high-horsepower application.
I do not recommend drag radials, even for your track use. Drag radials are designed for the dragstrip, not for the track. If you go to the dragstrip, they're an excellent choice - but they're not very good for street use, due to rapid treadwear and poor traction in rain.
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Re: Inquiring about Tires for street/track use, 200+whp w/ oem lsd (IntegraType-R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Really doesn't rain THAT Much in baton rouge</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, yes it does, more than almost all the big cities around the country, even those known for a lot of rain. Average annual precipitation (ref):
Los Angeles CA 13.2"
Denver CO 15.8"
Dallas TX 34.7"
Chicago IL 36.3"
Seattle WA 37.1"
Portland OR 37.1"
New York NY 44.4"
Houston TX 47.8"
Atlanta GA 50.2"
Miami FL 58.5"
Baton Rouge LA 63.1"
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm leaning towards the falkens..</TD></TR></TABLE>
I assume you mean the Falken Azenis RT-615. It's a very good tire.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any thought's on bg goodrich?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They don't have anything as good as the Azenis or the RE-01R. The tire they make in that category, the g-Force T/A KD, isn't as sticky/fast as the Azenis/RE01R, and costs a whole lot more. They don't make anything that competes with the Goodyear. So they really don't have anything as good in either category.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or the nitto's</TD></TR></TABLE>
Same story. Nitto doesn't make a supersticky tire as good as the Azenis or RE-01R, or an all-around summer tire as good as the Goodyear.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or kumhoS??</TD></TR></TABLE>
The Kumho Ecsta MX is designed to compete with the Azenis/RE-01R, but the other two tires are much better. Kumho will be coming out with another tire in this category some time this year, the Kumho Ecsta XS, but it's not out yet. Their other tires aren't as good as either of these.
That's why I recommended the tires I did, and not the ones from those other brands.
Actually, yes it does, more than almost all the big cities around the country, even those known for a lot of rain. Average annual precipitation (ref):
Los Angeles CA 13.2"
Denver CO 15.8"
Dallas TX 34.7"
Chicago IL 36.3"
Seattle WA 37.1"
Portland OR 37.1"
New York NY 44.4"
Houston TX 47.8"
Atlanta GA 50.2"
Miami FL 58.5"
Baton Rouge LA 63.1"
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm leaning towards the falkens..</TD></TR></TABLE>
I assume you mean the Falken Azenis RT-615. It's a very good tire.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any thought's on bg goodrich?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They don't have anything as good as the Azenis or the RE-01R. The tire they make in that category, the g-Force T/A KD, isn't as sticky/fast as the Azenis/RE01R, and costs a whole lot more. They don't make anything that competes with the Goodyear. So they really don't have anything as good in either category.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or the nitto's</TD></TR></TABLE>
Same story. Nitto doesn't make a supersticky tire as good as the Azenis or RE-01R, or an all-around summer tire as good as the Goodyear.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or kumhoS??</TD></TR></TABLE>
The Kumho Ecsta MX is designed to compete with the Azenis/RE-01R, but the other two tires are much better. Kumho will be coming out with another tire in this category some time this year, the Kumho Ecsta XS, but it's not out yet. Their other tires aren't as good as either of these.
That's why I recommended the tires I did, and not the ones from those other brands.
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