Heres some background.
I bought the car, needed work, was driven by a woman has 140k on it. I replaced clutch, new flywheel, water pump, main shaft bearing, and some other misselaneous stuff.

3 days ago I dumped the clutch in reverse in my driveway, car wouldnt move any where, when letting the clutch out in neutral it would stall. I have the trans out and opened it up again (took 1 hour to get it out this time verse 4 or so last time). All the gears are in good shape no chips or cracks, very small amount of metal on the magnet (I cleaned this last time) only about one 3rd of what was on it with what I assume 140k miles of debris.

I will be honest and say I dont know how these tranmissions work exactly, I havent been around them, I am looking at it an I htink it is the synchros that are bad, the reverse gear isnt hanging up and locking on the other gears which is good. I dont want to break down the shafts until I know what I am getting into. I made a thread already but this is a little more detailed now that I know what is going on inside the trans.

Sorry for the long post, I appreciate any advice.

 

You need to post some pics

 

Ill go take some, nothing obvious is hitting me maybe it will with on of you.

 

 

I don't see any obvious problems, and your syncros look fine.

What does your clutch look like?

 

your clutch is toast replace it while you have it out. or post pictures of it and well go from there.

 

Clutch has less than 1500 miles on it. I used the alignment tool, it worked great, I kept the tool so it shouldn't be an issue to check it out. Nothing fell out when I took the trans out.

 

Still, take off the pressure plate and tell us what you see.

 

why are you guys saying that the clutch is toast so difinitively?

He said that when he lets the clutch out in NEUTRAL, the car stalls. Meaning that the clutch engages normally, but the trans is in a gear that it's not supposed to be in.

OP: your linkage may have problems internally or externally. Other than that, I'm not sure of a different answer that might make sense.

Try to get a hold of Bense. He's a member on here with some really good transmission experience, I hear.

 

usually when you dump the clutch in reverse up a hill it messes up your clutch, from my own experience. maybe you got a faulty clutch idk. b serious has a good point and i missed the part where you said you had it in neutral and let the pedal out and it stalled. my next question would be did it run after you did that? or could it possible have gotten stuck in reverse? idk if thats possible, just throwin some ideas out there....

 

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The clutch doesn't know which way it's going...it's just like dumping the car in 1st, except, I think reverse is a little taller of a gear than 1st. The engine and input shaft and clutch are all still spinning in the same direction in reverse or in forward . The output shaft direction changes. Unless you put it in reverse when the output shaft is allready moving forwards. Then it tries to make SOMETHING move the opposite way or stop, and the engine/input shaft is the easiest. This could only happen if the car was allready moving forwards before you put it in reverse.

lol from my experience, when you dump the clutch in reverse, it breaks reverse. We had a 300zx rally beater that we did this to. It went POP, and then jerked back about an inch, stopped moving, and the engine just revved up. It was AWESOME.

Anyway, OP, you probably have some gear selector issues. What direction does the car want to move in when you put it in neutral and let the clutch out. Try letting the clutch out slowly...maybe you're stuck in 5th or something. See if it creeps forwards or backwards.

 

Clutch has less than 1500 miles on it. I used the alignment tool, it worked great, I kept the tool so it shouldn't be an issue to check it out. Nothing fell out when I took the trans out.

 

I took the trans apart, coulndt find out what was wrong. I bought a junk yard one took it apart and realized the gear that reverse rides against on the counter shaft isnt letting the other two gears spin feely, there is some scouring inside there. Is there a place to buy honda parts online? I got the new trans in and it works fine. I would like to rebuild this one to help remake some of the money back from buying the junkyard one. What is a fair price for a reman trans? with all new bearings seals and synchros?

 

trannys scare me...both kinds

 

Sounds like something is binding one or both of the gears on the countershaft. Countershaft 1st and 2nd, and mainshaft 3rd, 4th, and 5th should each spin freely when the transmission is out of gear. If one of them is binding, it will lock the countershaft and mainshaft together to bind the entire assembly even if a shift fork isn't actively positioning it into a gear.

Remove the gear stacks and spin each synchronized gear by hand. It should spin independent of the rest of the gears on the shaft.

Parts are expensive. Especially some of the bearings, and even more so the synchro sets. 1st-2nd is the most expensive followed by 3rd-4th, and then 5th-reverse.

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com

If it's not an EX S40 B000 transmission, don't bother replacing anything expense on it.

 

ive had similiar problms like this before. you may have bent your linkage when pulling the tranny in and out of the car. and does it select all gears or is it just stuck in reverse? could be bad forks mebbe?

 

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haha!

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Well..the lesson here might have been "never buy a honda trans from a junkyard". They're way too expensive from junkyards around here. Not sure what you got yours for. I know I sold a perfectly good D16Z6 trans for like $125...and those are desireable. I've seen similar transmissions going for about the same price. Ebay, motor depots like hmotorsonline.com, or honda-tech classifieds would probably have been cheaper. Depending on what engine you have, the transmissions can be very cheap.

As for your honda parts, try hondaautomotiveparts.com. Cheap *** factory parts from the east coast.

 

I took the trans apart, coulndt find out what was wrong. I bought a junk yard one took it apart and realized the gear that reverse rides against on the counter shaft isnt letting the other two gears spin feely, there is some scouring inside there. Is there a place to buy honda parts online? I got the new trans in and it works fine. I would like to rebuild this one to help remake some of the money back from buying the junkyard one. What is a fair price for a reman trans? with all new bearings seals and synchros?