I have quite a budget at my back to build the EG sitting in my garage it's a '95 Si. so far my thoughts are set on the B16A so no comments about b18c or CR-Vtec. completely built from throttle body to bearings. I was looking into stroker kits, has anyone gone this route? it will also be turbo manged by hondata. I just want some ideas on best parts and setup for max HP on a B16A.

 

Well, if you're set on a b16, I'd build it for reliability... I wouldn't recommend a supercharge/turbocharged combination for your setup. Stick to one thing, and in this case, the best route to go would be turboing the b16. Stock it can handle about 250WHP and depending on how well you build it, the numbers go up from there. I've seen higher numbers for turbo b16's, but reliability can be compromised by getting too greedy if you don't build.

Before I say anymore: what use do you have for your car, track, drag, or just a daily driver? Also, what exactly is your budget and goals for HP/TQ?

 

I'm building it for a buddy overseas budget is about $18K. what he does with it is up to him but the idea is street driven monster. it's registered in texas so no need for smog. reliability is a must and so is turbo. what's a good target for street? somthing that can keep up with anything out there.

 

Probably around 300whp.. You only need like 6-7k to reach that goal, definately not 18k..

I'd suggest starting out with a B18B (145Hp 127Trq 9.4 Compression (JDM)

142Hp 127Trq 9.2 Compression (USDM))

or

B18C1 (170 hp @ 7600 rpm && 128 lbs-ft @ 6200 rpm (USDM)


180Hp 126Trq 10.6 Compression (JDM)), it's a bit of a better platform to start out especially when you're going to boost the motor.

 

Start with the GSR. Pistons and rods will allow you to make around 500whp with a good tune. The budget is a little overkill, but if you want to sleeve, it wouldnt be a terrible idea.

 

Good idea, however, if you're suggesting he go for 500whp or about that, that's a bit overkill for a street car. There's no way he'd get traction with that much power, along with the fact that he'd have some nasty turbo lag... Unless, he was tuned at that level for the track and for the street, the boost was turned down.

 

^ Although i do agree, the OP stated "Max power on the B16" which i agree isn't a great idea for the street. A milder 400whp would be a lot more streetable and less expensive to attain.

Also, to the OP, rather than looking into a stroker for the B16, why not start with a GSR?

 

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Also, to the OP, rather than looking into a stroker for the B16, why not start with a GSR?</TD></TR></TABLE>

[b]Exactly.. A turbo b16 isn't bad if you're going to DD it and keep it on stock internals for the most part, but if you have a large budget, why not go for a bigger displacement motor with more horsepower and torque? The b16 is essentially a duplicate of a d16y8/d16z6 until you get past 5,500RPMs...

 

B20!!!!!!

 

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That's not a great starting point because the B20 needs sleeving to make much more than what most stock B series are capable of. I would rather snag a GSR with a piston/rod combo and have fun without spending a ton.

 

18K?!?!?

That much money could build one hell of a turbo'd Honda.

 

With a budget of 18K, why not go ***** out for a K-series?

I'd say the GS-R (B18C1) would be a better starting platform...but that's just my .02

 

18K for the whole car suspension, motor, paint, interior, the works. the b16 drops right into the car with no modification, plugs right up into the wiring harness, and is inexpensive $2250 for motor, ECU, and LSD tranny with free dilivery. and when I'm planning on going aftermarket with all the bolt-ons and internals, and all the machine shop labor starting less expensive is better. I'm doing this all on my own so I don't want to have to fabricate anything for a k-swap. I've just decided that the B16 is my best bet. even if I don't go with a stroker kit it will still be one fast motor with all machine work and internals done. the B18 is $700 more doesn't come with LSD, and i don't know if it's OBD-I. or if I'll need special axles.

 

The GS-R is essentially a B16, but with .2 more liters of displacement...which equals more torque, something the B16 is known for lacking.

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30008

Don't get me wrong, a built/boosted B16 will haul *****, but IMO the GS-R is just a better foundation to start with.

Good luck with the build

 

which axles do you use with the GSR swapped into an EG?

 

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integra.

i have a b16a integra XSi block for sale.............60 bucks picked up in socal

 

sounds good but then that just creates extra work on my part trying to track down a head and LSD trans for sale by them selves

 

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Is it blown up?! 60 bucks? That's all?!

 

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psh shoulda hit me up like 6months ago when i was parting it out

nobody wants to buy a complete motor anymore

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nah just dissassy.................im having trouble getting rid of it for 60! someone offered a d16 block with 10 bucks...........

but you're in virgina so it might be diffrent over there, a b16a first gen short block over here goes for like 90, oil pan crank pistons, usable block

and im even having trouble getting rid of my K swap parts!!!! wtf.......is the scene dying out?

 

Lol where do you live?

People around here spend like 500 on a beat up LS shortblock.

People in VA aren't the smartest (no offense to some of the VA'ers on here). I've seen shops charge 4k for a B16 PLUS install and people pay it all day.

Shops taking advantage of dumb ricers/JDM wannabe's =

 

socal...........probably search the for sale threads and find like 3 b16a shortblocks for under $100 LOL.

i belive the money motors out here are the type-r's and gsr's but it's impossible to find a legit one.......................... thats why i just went with the k series really easy to find a legit k series since they're so new.

haha im pretty much leaving the scene, just want something that'll take me to school everyday..........i know an s2000 won't be as fast as the civic was going to be but atleast i can drive it on the street everyday hahah

 

hmotorsonline.com, ylm motors, nippn-motors.com... all very good sources in socal for used JDM motors type-R's, GSRs you name it k-series. you can pick up at any of those shops and nippon does free dilivery for socal customers.