i have a 99 honda civic si tht i had stolen and gonna rebuild i can decide in which engine i should go with anybody can help

 

It depends on your goals...

NA: I dont know
FI: GSR all the way

 

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All I saw when i opened this topic was:

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Why don't you help us help you:

1. Budget - be realistic

2. Horsepower goals

3. Boost? N/A?

Anyways there are 20+ B20/VTEC topics posted around H-T daily, and information on GS-R swaps has been solid online since 1998 or so.

There are too many ways to build a B20/VTEC to even compare it to any other engine really.

 

b20 vtec or ls vtec all day i love my motor and its running after 6 years now so

 

i wana go N/A budget waste like 6000 or so im more lean on the b20vtec but i want it to last thts why i cant decide

 

also want about 220whp to 250whp

 

ls v tech son....

not only torqey but will last for a good minute,,,,

thats my case....

 

well if you wanna get 220 to 250 whp NA its going to cost your more then 6k on either engine. I know b20vtec with light mods will make 200whp easy. as for gsr there will be more money and less torque involved... id go with the B20 vtec. I like the b20 vtec on boost though... just my .02.

 

also adding to my stuff up top making 220-250 whp NA and keeping it leagal for emissions is going to be nearly impossible.

 

If you have a $6k budget and want a good amount of power, a boosted stock GSR would be my pick. I have (had) one and made great power on it. I have since spun a rod bearing and am rebuilding it for more power.

 

a boosted gsr stock will make about 300whp pretty easy and last for a decent amount of time. i know im boosting next summer on JDM B16 and ill be around 320 whp on stock bottom end, fulll skunk2 valvetrain, cams, IM, and fuel rail.

 

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Mine lasted 2 years before an unrelated oiling issue caused it to spin a bearing...it is a mixed blessing though. Yes, it sucks that it is out of commission, but now i get to build it

 

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Mine lasted 2 years before an unrelated oiling issue caused it to spin a bearing...it is a mixed blessing though. Yes, it sucks that it is out of commission, but now i get to build it </TD></TR></TABLE>
haha in two years im gunna be building my civic for a race car only and rollin the benz daily. haha but in two years i wanna do a full b20vtec build and make 500+ whp and do some bracket racing.

 

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haha in two years im gunna be building my civic for a race car only and rollin the benz daily. haha but in two years i wanna do a full b20vtec build and make 500+ whp and do some bracket racing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unless you're sleeving, the B20 is a terrible place to start. The stock sleeves are known to be weak and wont make much more power than what a normal stock block can handle. Starting with an LS or GSR would be a lot better option

 

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Unless you're sleeving, the B20 is a terrible place to start. The stock sleeves are known to be weak and wont make much more power than what a normal stock block can handle. Starting with an LS or GSR would be a lot better option</TD></TR></TABLE>

OOO YAAAAH bro FULLY rebuilt... sleeved and bored to 87mm everything. it would be full race like show up on a trailer style. i would never boost a b20.... scary.

 

b20 all the way ... closet thing to a k20

 

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H22?

 

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H22?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I HATE H22 LOL!!!!!! i just cant stand them... i dunno why i just hate em. K20's are rediculous and i will NEVER swap one. Im a b series kinda guy lol

 

I say get a GSR and resleeve the bottom end. That way, you will have all the advantages of a B20-VTEC without the B20 bottom end. Also, if you have to deal with any kind of visual smog inspection, the motor will look stock.

 

how about a b20b block with b16b head?

 

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that doesnt make sense to me... if you resleeve a b20 it will be just as durable as a gsr.... and have more displacement.

 

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explain this light mods? im doing b20vtec right, looking for a rough 190hp out of it, my brothers last b20vtec made 191/157 stock internals on bolt on, ran a 12.6 in a rex, how easy is to put out 200 on a b20vtec? list me..id like to know

 

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explain this light mods? im doing b20vtec right, looking for a rough 190hp out of it, my brothers last b20vtec made 191/157 stock internals on bolt on, ran a 12.6 in a rex, how easy is to put out 200 on a b20vtec? list me..id like to know</TD></TR></TABLE>
umm let me see if i can contact the guy who was making 204 and see what he had. his username on here is 92clneg i think.

 

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that doesnt make sense to me... if you resleeve a b20 it will be just as durable as a gsr.... and have more displacement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It wouldn't make sense unless you live in California, or some other place that actually checks to see what you have under the hood during smog checks (like some places in the northeast). If you live in such a place, you have to resort to this kind of trickery in order to pass smog. After all, they WILL fail you if you have a B20 block with a VTEC head. Or, for that matter, just a B20 block (since it is considered swapping a truck engine into a car, which is not allowed). But nobody will ask any questions if you bring in what appears to be a stock GSR swap, but which happens to have 84mm bores.

Also, if you want the full displacement of a B20-VTEC, but with a GSR block stamp, all you need to do is use an LS crank and rods in a GSR block. It all fits perfectly.

 

Im curious as to where the OP lives? And yes this will have a lot to do with what advice should be given.