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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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i have a 97 civic HX and my EGR went bad, so i have to replace it but i dont want to spend $150 for a new one because i'm going to do a motor swap hopefully over the summer. So what i wanted to ask is if i unplug the egr will that cause any damage to my motor??
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 04:23 AM
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anyone???
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 04:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freddysEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 97 civic HX and my EGR went bad, so i have to replace it but i dont want to spend $150 for a new one because i'm going to do a motor swap hopefully over the summer. So what i wanted to ask is if i unplug the egr will that cause any damage to my motor??</TD></TR></TABLE>


"The EGR valve helps your car more efficiently and completely burn fuel by recirculating a portion of your exhaust and running it through the combustion process again. This results in a cooler, more complete burn of the fuel which decreases you car's noxious emissions by prohibiting the formation of some harmful gases."

read more if you want - http://autorepair.about.com/od...e.htm

all in all, its very possible that it can make your car run like sh.it and give you pretty bad acceleration...so yea, it can cause some harm
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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i remember reading on how to bypass this by changing the ECU or something but i cant remember what ecu or things to use. does anyone know
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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You might be able to run a P2P from a Ex
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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Honestly EGR does very little to drivability to a vehicle.

The only things that cause noticable power differences or stumbling is if the EGR ports within the intake manifold/runners are stopped up then there can be a pronounced stumble at lower rpm under load/acceleration, but unplugging an EGR valve may not even be detectable when driving the car.

The HX is certainly the most **** of all emissions systems, but even still I can't think of any harm done (other than to our poor little environment ) by unplugging the egr valve.

By the way:

What is the exact p code number you're getting? Far too often people assume an EGR code is due to the egr valve, but it could be the portsbeing stopped up , a vacuum hose, etc.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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codes P1491, P1300, P1399,
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freddysEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">codes P1491, P1300, P1399,</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice. I literally just shut my main PC down that has my all data programs, so the only one of those codes I know off the top of my head is the P1491 - EGR valve lift insufficient. You're correct in saying you need an EGR valve.

Those other codes? I'll be happy to look up the flow charts tomorrow, but I suspecty them to be piggy back codes thrown because of the bad EGR valve as well.

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the other ones are misfire because of the bad EGR so it makes my car kinda like stater but then it goes away and i stop for a few seconds and not it doesnt do it when i unplug it
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freddysEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the other ones are misfire because of the bad EGR so it makes my car kinda like stater but then it goes away and i stop for a few seconds and not it doesnt do it when i unplug it </TD></TR></TABLE>

You are correct.

P1300 has a flow chart, but specifically states that a code P1491 must be repaired and cleared first and then only proceed if P1300 code returns alone.

P1399 has no flow chart, and again does specifcially list EGR and/or possible valve clearance issues as the root.
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