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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 01:21 AM
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Default 1-3-5-6 gear changes


i go 1st to 3rd to 5th to 6th at 3000 rpm

& on occasion (in community areas with lots of stop signs) i go 1-4-6

am i the only person that does that?

just curious
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 02:14 AM
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Why do you do that? If you shift too early or skip a gear at too low of an RPM all you're doing is eating up your gas.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 03:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why do you do that? If you shift too early or skip a gear at too low of an RPM all you're doing is eating up your gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

True. LOL. Skipping gears is pointless. I'm surprised his engine doesn't stall in 6th while in a "community area". I don't hit 6th until at least 55-60 MPH.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 04:30 AM
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Default Re: 1-3-5-6 gear changes (N3UROM4NC3R)

i used to do that while mine was still "bone" stock. but i guess its a good thing that i don't anymore, mostly do to the fact that i now have my comparatively meager, yet quite satisfying setup. It just sounds too good not to row through em all.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 06:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "Honda Service News January 2006" &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Skip Shifting Is Brutal on Synchronizers [emphasis mine]

Gear ratios in 6-speed manual trannies are spaced close together so you can keep the engine speed in its optimum range for max power and acceleration. Shifting to the next higher or lower gear in a close-ratio tranny causes small changes in engine speed.

Shifting a close-ratio tranny through its gears by the numbers puts a very small load on the synchronizers since they only have to make small changes to the speed of the mainshaft and the clutch disc.

Some drivers, though, like to skip shift so they don’t have to work the clutch pedal and shift lever as much. They like to accelerate in 1st gear, then pop it into 3rd gear, then into 5th or 6th. Skip shifting, though, is really brutal on synchronizers; [emphasis mine] it puts a higher demand on them than they were designed to take. Skip shifting can cause premature synchronizer wear that can cause the gears to grind when you shift up or down.

If you’ve got a vehicle in your shop for repeated damage to the synchronizers, go for a test-drive with your service customer to see if he or she is guilty of skip shifting. If that’s the case, remind him or her skip shifting can be an expensive habit to break.
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-mr. bill
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 06:13 AM
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Default Re: 1-3-5-6 gear changes (mrbill)

good find mr bill! i was lookin for it on Interactive but oculdnt find it.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Default Re: 1-3-5-6 gear changes (FBPSidan)

i always thought that it could be bad because the syncs are not expecting 1-3 and stuff, but i never really thought much of it.

thanks alot though, i will start going through all the gears.

btw my dad has a corvette and he goes 1-4-6 at 1500 rpms, so thats were i learned it from

i'm guessing his sync's are probably pretty messed up since hes been doing that for years.

oh and i always heard from friends and such to shift between 2000 and 4000

so i thought well i should shift in the middle..

where would be the best to shift, to save gas/ and reduce wear on components?
4000?


Modified by Mattgrimes at 6:37 PM 1/7/2008
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Under 4K is best. Your manual outlines the shift points which I believe are stated in MPH and not RPM readings.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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alright thanks alot.
i just went and drove to get food and shifted through all the gears, always.
its a little more jerky/ less smooth, but i'll get used to it.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Default Re: 1-3-5-6 gear changes (Mattgrimes)

To be honest, this is a good way to overwork your clutch. I believe the ECU log's if a gear is missed in shifting. I would think you might have a warranty issue if your clutch goes early.

Any Honda techs that can confirm this?


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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mattgrimes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright thanks alot.
i just went and drove to get food and shifted through all the gears, always.
its a little more jerky/ less smooth, but i'll get used to it. </TD></TR></TABLE>


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