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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Hello everyone,

New guy here. I'm working on a unique little project and could use your help. I'm heavily involved in racing simulation (pc based) and I'm currently working on a CRX mod (for a program known as rfactor). We're now thinking of basing it on NASA's Honda Challenge series. I would like to know what the typical performance specs are of most of these cars. Any direct info given here, or suggestions of where I can find this information, would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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Message for Dirty19... I tried to reply to your instant message here, but noobs aren't allowed to use that feature here? I had the following message come up:
"You do not have permission to use instant messaging."

send me an email to sales@trinity-racing.com and I can send you info you requested. You can also Google Trinity Racing Concepts for samples of what I'm involved in.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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Default Re: Honda Challenge race engine specs? (Norseman)

what class?

There are many many many different combos a CRX could fall into.

H1? H2? H4? H5?
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Well, there's actually the potential of having all groups, H1-H5, represented in this and allowing the user to select from several optional performance packages. So hp, torque, redline, etc. estimates for all 5 groups would be helpful. I'd also like to know what gears people are running. And if anyone knows the suspension geometry, that would be helpful as well. In this simulation, we're able to incorporate just about everything there is on a real car... track, camber, caster, suspension travel, bump, dampening, toe, roll center, roll camber rate, kingpin inclination, scrub radius, etc., etc. So far, I have an early beta going after setting some rough estimates, but it's far too easy to drive and needs a lot of work.

Btw, there is the potential of eventually making all the different Honda Challenge cars for rfactor... we're just starting with the CRX first because I own one and hope to run it in HPDE real soon.


Modified by Norseman at 2:15 PM 1/6/2008
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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http://www.nasaproracing.com/r...e.pdf
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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h1 hp b series 200-240 tq 119-140 b series redline up to 10,000 weight 2100-2400
h1 hp k series 220-250 tq 150-190 redline up to 9000 weight 2400-2450
h1 hp h series 200-240 tq 130-155 redline up to 9000 weight 2400
those are the main swaps in H1....many many many combinations...

h2 hp 140-195 tq 115-140 redline 7200-9000 weight 1900-2400

h4 hp 120-145 tq 100-115 redline 6800-7400 weight is close to 2100ish

h5 hp 90-115 tq 100-115 redline 6800-7400 weight i believe is 2100

please build the specs in an EG not a crx....eg is in my opinion a better platform

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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ps norseman

i love the roads in boulder creek area especially the one going up to camp hammer!! my brother worked at the camp for 4 or 5 years....and my yearly visits i really looked forward too
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Thank you CRX Toad, but I already have the rules... looking for more than rules. So far, I've been told that your typical H4 class CRX would be around 120-130 HP to rear wheels... Info like that is not in the rule book. I need a lot more than that though.

What Chad has given me is a very good start... Thanks Chad, I may have to invite you up to my place for some serious beta testing! Do you know the Locks from GoTo Racing team? They live just a short ride from my place in Scotts Valley... hang out with them from time to time.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Norseman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thank you, but I already have the rules... looking for more than rules. So far, I've been told that your typical H4 class CRX would be around 120-130 HP to FRONT wheels... Info like that is not in the rule book. I need a lot more than that though. </TD></TR></TABLE>

all the cars in HC are FWD cept for s2k and nsx
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Ooops... I knew that, just typing away here with half my brain cells occupied by the NFL playoff games...

Btw Chad, we have to do CRX first because the guy who started this decided he just wanted to do a CRX and it's already 3/4 the way there. He's a very talented 3D modeller based in Holland... I became involved in doing the physics because I have 1990 CRX Si that I plan to run in HPDE and am considering getting into HC later on (probably with a different car though). I do have access to several other Honda race cars in rfactor... I plan to spend the next few months testing them to see how good they'll fit the HC series and if it looks good (and all creators approve) we may eventually release a complete series to the public.

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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Nah, don't listen to Chad and stick with the CRX!

All the figures are right about on. Wheel base is 90".
If there's anything else, just let us know!
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:43 AM
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H5 CRX is a first generation CRX, 1.5l 12valve engine. hp 90-109ish tq 90-105ish. Redline is 6800-7200 but doesn't make much power over 6800. Weight on the car is 2000 with driver.

Good luck with the game.

Z
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