Acura Integra All Integra Except ITR

Maintenance Required Light !?!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 07:59 AM
  #1  
Evolution-93-Ex's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,077
Likes: 0
From: Your mommas bed, that might be true too ..., So Cali, USA
Default Maintenance Required Light !?!

Hmm so the other day i was leaving from Fry's and my maintenance light came on i kinda freaked cause i was pretty far from home and didn't want my car die out on me.... So when i got home, checked all my fluids they seem alright, oil level seems fine, i'm not required to get a tune for another 2k miles .. What else you think ?!? It's a 98 GSR 120k mi
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 08:08 AM
  #2  
PrinceAli132's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,215
Likes: 0
From: Miami, Fl, USA
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (Evolution-93-Ex)

That light just means your due for service. It does not mean you need one though and does not mean anything is wrong with your car.

Maintenance Required Indicator Explained

Edited for wrong info.

Ali


Modified by PrinceAli132 at 1:21 PM 1/6/2008
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 08:48 AM
  #3  
GRAF-FITI's Avatar
* B A N N E D *
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,557
Likes: 1
From: states united
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (PrinceAli132)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrinceAli132 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That light just means your due for an oil change.

Ali</TD></TR></TABLE>

wrong. i don't know why so many people say this, it has NOTHING to do with the oil

the maintenance required light was implemented by honda as a reminder for regularly shceduled maintenance. the intention was that the customer would bring the car to the dealer, have the service rendered, then the tech would turn off the light. obviously, it was a scare tactic and a hassle for the vehicle owner.

over time though it was pretty obvious the owner could turn it off, with even the first reset switch for this light directly visible to the driver on the gauge cluster. though well intentioned, i think it wasn't well thought out.....and honda knew people were resetting it themselves, thus they made it somewhat harder to do so, i.e. putting it under the column on the integra (not easily visible)

Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 09:15 AM
  #4  
Rikter's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,091
Likes: 0
From: Victoria, B.C., Canada
Default

While that is true, it is just a reminder of servicing, etc..... if you call up any honda dealer (atleast here in Canada) and say "i get my work done elsewhere, how do you turn off the light?) or just ask how to turn out the light they'll just tell you. It's not some closely guarded Acura/Honda secret.

Vehicles are brought out with these technologies and sensors to keep the owners in touch with their vehicles because most only know how to put gas in when the needle gets close to "E"
-Rik
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 09:43 AM
  #5  
GRAF-FITI's Avatar
* B A N N E D *
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,557
Likes: 1
From: states united
Default Re: (Rikter)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rikter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">While that is true, it is just a reminder of servicing, etc..... if you call up any honda dealer (atleast here in Canada) and say "i get my work done elsewhere, how do you turn off the light?) or just ask how to turn out the light they'll just tell you. It's not some closely guarded Acura/Honda secret.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed, and i never stated it was a closely guarded secret.....just an attempt by honda to get the majority of car illiterate owners to bring their car back to the dealer
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:25 AM
  #6  
nsxtasy's Avatar
H-T Order of Merit
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 23,478
Likes: 2
From: Chicago
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (GRAF-FITI)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wrong. i don't know why so many people say this, it has NOTHING to do with the oil</TD></TR></TABLE>

WRONG. The purpose of the maintenance required light is to note that the car is due for regularly required maintenance, at the shortest maintenance interval, which includes the recommendation for an oil change.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just an attempt by honda to get the majority of car illiterate owners to bring their car back to the dealer</TD></TR></TABLE>

WRONG. It is an attempt by Honda to provide an easy means to help owners know when the recommended maintenance interval is reached, at which point they can take it to the dealer, or go to an independent mechanic, or do it themselves. Or even neglect their maintenance if they so choose.

If it were only designed to get them to take their car back to the dealer, they wouldn't have noted how to turn it off in the service manual (which most DIYers have) and wouldn't have made it so easy to do so.

Anything else you'd like to get wrong?
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:46 AM
  #7  
GRAF-FITI's Avatar
* B A N N E D *
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,557
Likes: 1
From: states united
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (nsxtasy)

do you not know how to read?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the maintenance required light was implemented by honda as a reminder for regularly shceduled maintenance. the intention was that the customer would bring the car to the dealer, have the service rendered, then the tech would turn off the light.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

what does that say?

and you're telling me honda didn't care where the customer took the car to have the maintenance done?

and it doesn't come on every 3 months / 3000 miles to recommend an oil change,
as is the "standard" most people use

anything else you care to argue about?
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:05 AM
  #8  
nsxtasy's Avatar
H-T Order of Merit
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 23,478
Likes: 2
From: Chicago
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (GRAF-FITI)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you not know how to read?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, you're just about the rudest A-hole on this forum. And also the most arrogant. But the fact remains, you were wrong, wrong, and WRONG. And you're still posting things that are WRONG. And for someone who goes around telling other people they're wrong, it's amazing how much wrong information you're posting yourself.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what does that say?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It says that the guy was wrong in noting that it has nothing to do with the oil change. You were WRONG about that. The oil change is part of the most frequent service interval, 7500 miles, in the recommended maintenance schedule, the one in the owner's manual.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and you're telling me honda didn't care where the customer took the car to have the maintenance done? </TD></TR></TABLE>

There you go, trying to distract from the fact that you were WRONG in claiming it has nothing to do with the oil change, and WRONG about the dealer service, when in fact that people can go anywhere they want for service.

And the answer to your question is, NO, American Honda (the people who sell the cars) really don't care whether you go to one of their franchised dealers for service, or elsewhere. The dealers are independent businesses, not part of Honda Motor Co. Why else would they sell service manuals to DIYers? So again, you're just flat-out WRONG.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and it doesn't come on every 3 months / 3000 miles to recommend an oil change, as is the "standard" most people use</TD></TR></TABLE>

WRONG again. That's not the standard most people use. Some people still use that advice, which was applicable 50+ years ago, when oil technology and car technology was far more primitive than they are today. And mechanics often recommend that advice, because it means more money for them. But many people go longer between oil changes, because modern cars using modern oil don't need oil changed as often as many years ago.

The FACT is that Honda, the people who design and build the cars, recommend that the oil is changed every 7500 miles, in the owner's manual and service manual. And that's why the service interval which the warning light uses is 7500 miles, rather than the 3000 miles of 50+ years ago. Of course, you can change the oil whenever you like. But it makes sense to have the warning interval be the same as the car manufacturer's recommendation.

Anything else you'd like to get WRONG? You're doing a great job at posting wrong information - maybe you should go into politics.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:12 AM
  #9  
clean3two3's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,019
Likes: 0
From: So.Cal, Ca, United States
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (Evolution-93-Ex)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evolution-93-Ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm so the other day i was leaving from Fry's and my maintenance light came on i kinda freaked cause i was pretty far from home and didn't want my car die out on me.... So when i got home, checked all my fluids they seem alright, oil level seems fine, i'm not required to get a tune for another 2k miles .. What else you think ?!? It's a 98 GSR 120k mi </TD></TR></TABLE>

im guessing you went to the one in burbank by the airport lol

sorry out of the topic





Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:17 AM
  #10  
GRAF-FITI's Avatar
* B A N N E D *
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,557
Likes: 1
From: states united
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (nsxtasy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wow, you're just about the rudest A-hole on this forum. And also the most arrogant.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

thank you

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You were WRONG about that. The oil change is part of the most frequent service interval.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, the light comes on roughly every 7500 miles.. and what moniters the oil to trigger a mechanical warning on your cluster? the mileage since the thing was reset...and even though honda recommends oil change every 7500....you really think the majority of owners follow that..i'll put money that they don't

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And the answer to your question is, NO, American Honda (the people who sell the cars) really don't care whether you go to one of their franchised dealers for service, or elsewhere. Why else would they sell service manuals to DIYers? So again, you're just flat-out WRONG.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'll call again...you can't believe that from a business standpoint they don't care where you take your car....i realize they sell service manuals but agin, 95% of owners DO NOT own these and if they are really **** take their car back to the dealer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


WRONG again. That's not the standard most people use. Some people still use that advice, which was applicable 50+ years ago, when oil technology and car technology was far more primitive than they are today. And mechanics often recommend that advice, because it means more money for them. But many people go longer between oil changes, because modern cars using modern oil don't need oil changed as often as many years ago.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm..again that still is the standard most people use...whether your local oil change place or the average DIY customer....i do not argue the fact that technology has made 7500 a realistic interval, but again....95% of people still go under the premise of 3mos/3000 miles


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Anything else you'd like to get WRONG? You're doing a great job at posting wrong information - maybe you should go into politics.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry, no politics for me.....if i was posting wrong info, i'd have to join the republican party....and joining the repukes will never happen
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:42 AM
  #11  
nsxtasy's Avatar
H-T Order of Merit
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 23,478
Likes: 2
From: Chicago
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (GRAF-FITI)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, the light comes on roughly every 7500 miles.. and what moniters the oil to trigger a mechanical warning on your cluster?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nothing monitors the oil. The warning is triggered by the same mechanism as the odometer, 7500 miles since the previous time the button was reset.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">even though honda recommends oil change every 7500....you really think the majority of owners follow that..i'll put money that they don't</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll take that wager. The majority of owners follow the schedule in the manuals.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'll call again...you can't believe that from a business standpoint they don't care where you take your car....i realize they sell service manuals but agin, 95% of owners DO NOT own these and if they are really **** take their car back to the dealer</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong again. More owners take the car to an independent mechanic (including the quick-lube chains) or do the maintenance themselves than taking it to the dealer for service. Overall, the percentages are roughly 50/30/20, although it varies; the newer the car, the more likely the owner is to take it to the dealer. And of course there are brands (not ours) where free maintenance at the dealer is included in the warranty.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i realize they sell service manuals</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong again. Most of the service manuals are sold by Helm, Inc., the publisher.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmm..again that still is the standard most people use...whether your local oil change place or the average DIY customer....i do not argue the fact that technology has made 7500 a realistic interval, but again....95% of people still go under the premise of 3mos/3000 miles</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong again. Most people follow the schedule in the owner's manual, or decide on intervals for themselves. Those doing it according to the old saw of 3/3000 are a minority of owners nowadays.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:48 AM
  #12  
GRAF-FITI's Avatar
* B A N N E D *
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,557
Likes: 1
From: states united
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (nsxtasy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Nothing. The warning is triggered by the odometer, 7500 miles since the previous time the button was reset.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks, again something i already knew

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


I'll take that wager. The majority of owners follow the schedule in the manuals.


</TD></TR></TABLE>

the majority of KNOWLEDGEABLE owners

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wrong again. Most of the service manuals are sold by Helm, Inc., the publisher.


</TD></TR></TABLE>

again, something i already knew

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Wrong again. Most people follow the schedule in the owner's manual, or decide on intervals for themselves. Those doing it according to the old saw of 3/3000 are a minority of owners nowadays.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm sorry man, but having managed an autozone and a firestone, the majority of people come in ballpark 3mos/3000 miles....valvoline and similiar places even send out oil change reminders every 3mos/3000 miles


regardless, all it takes is one oil change not related to the maintenance light to make the point of the light moot in regards to oil....i could drive around with my maintanence light on for 4000 miles then simply turn it off, and it would essentially no longer have anyting to do with an oil change

and how come you didn't argue my point about republicans? hopefully you agree with me in that regard
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 02:01 PM
  #13  
Evolution-93-Ex's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,077
Likes: 0
From: Your mommas bed, that might be true too ..., So Cali, USA
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (GRAF-FITI)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean3two3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

im guessing you went to the one in burbank by the airport lol

sorry out of the topic


</TD></TR></TABLE>


hahaha yea thats the one !! So yeah anyways i need a oil change or just press the reset button and not worry until my scheduled time ?
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 02:05 PM
  #14  
GRAF-FITI's Avatar
* B A N N E D *
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,557
Likes: 1
From: states united
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (Evolution-93-Ex)

press the button and reset it

/thread
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 02:26 PM
  #15  
teg your it's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
From: mn usa
Default Re: Maintenance Required Light !?! (GRAF-FITI)

yea the light is just a reminder for maintenance. the light comes on everything 7500 miles after reseting it. the 7500 miles is actually the recommended oil change interval (by driving normally) according to the manuals.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 02:43 PM
  #16  
clean3two3's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,019
Likes: 0
From: So.Cal, Ca, United States
Default

damn pretty good argument for both of you
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 02:46 PM
  #17  
GRAF-FITI's Avatar
* B A N N E D *
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,557
Likes: 1
From: states united
Default Re: (clean3two3)

ha that's not why i'm here though

somehow i think alot of what we both said was misconstrued by the other person

Reply
Old Jan 30, 2008 | 12:43 PM
  #18  
94DB8's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
From: MCB Camp Pendleton
Default

WRONG. The purpose of the maintenance required light is to note that the car is due for regularly required maintenance, at the shortest maintenance interval, which includes the recommendation for an oil change.

i dont know if this is accurate... i changed my oil less than 1500 miles ago and my light came on... is the light set to come and different preset intervels? im at 128,xxx now ...
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rewerbcrx
Acura RSX DC5 & Honda Civic EP3
9
Jun 3, 2008 11:09 AM
papa5murf
Honda S2000
11
Sep 9, 2004 12:21 AM
sharkey65a
Acura Integra
6
Aug 12, 2003 11:08 PM
turbolag98
Acura Integra
3
Aug 1, 2003 03:48 PM
InfamousRS
Acura Integra
2
Sep 20, 2001 10:57 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:50 AM.