Still major problems with my R
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I still got that knocking problem I cannot solve.
The ecu detects knock over 60 or 70 at 5k, 5,2k and 5,8k, under full throttle in 4th and 5th speed.
I added fuel
I added more fuel
I reduced ignition
She contiues knocking.
Injectors are able to handle more fuel, this is not the problem...
But there`s something I don`t understand:
If I kick it down in 2nd or 3rd, she doesn`t knock at those numbers.
Pressure axis and rpm axis are quite the same, but she doesn`t knock.. ONLY in 4th or/and 5th speed.
2nd speed / full throttle / 5k / ===> knock rate of 10-20
5th speed / full throttle / 5k / ===> knock rate of 70
W H Y ??????
The ecu detects knock over 60 or 70 at 5k, 5,2k and 5,8k, under full throttle in 4th and 5th speed.
I added fuel
I added more fuel
I reduced ignition
She contiues knocking.
Injectors are able to handle more fuel, this is not the problem...
But there`s something I don`t understand:
If I kick it down in 2nd or 3rd, she doesn`t knock at those numbers.
Pressure axis and rpm axis are quite the same, but she doesn`t knock.. ONLY in 4th or/and 5th speed.
2nd speed / full throttle / 5k / ===> knock rate of 10-20
5th speed / full throttle / 5k / ===> knock rate of 70
W H Y ??????
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Question 1) YES
Qestion 2) He`s running off ideas too.... No time for a dyno day for him an me these days...
Qestion 2) He`s running off ideas too.... No time for a dyno day for him an me these days...
knocking happens before my actual vtec kicks in
IM me if you have further question, Europe's typeR seems the same and we run same 98RON fuel, so everything should be pretty similar.
[Modified by DC2#309, 12:46 PM 6/30/2002]
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knocking happens before my actual vtec kicks in
Maijk, bring your fuel back to where you dyno it, try to knock back your ignition a lil bit less, you shouldnt have any problems. Did you try playing with your PIM Volt too?
IM me if you have further question, Europe's typeR seems the same and we run same 98RON fuel, so everything should be pretty similar.
[Modified by DC2#309, 12:46 PM 6/30/2002]
Maijk, bring your fuel back to where you dyno it, try to knock back your ignition a lil bit less, you shouldnt have any problems. Did you try playing with your PIM Volt too?
IM me if you have further question, Europe's typeR seems the same and we run same 98RON fuel, so everything should be pretty similar.
[Modified by DC2#309, 12:46 PM 6/30/2002]
And for what I noticed is, the more fuel I add (now at 125%) the more bad the kocking gets... But reducing fuel have had the same effect..
Oh, I added 2% at PIM Volt, just like you told me.... The knock-warning curve still explodes when heading 5000rpm in 5th speed at pressure of 9 or 10.
[Modified by Maijk ITR1858, 7:07 PM 6/30/2002]
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What it can be is actual engine noise. I know with my PowerFC it said i was knocking at a around 5000RPM, so i pulled the timming and it still did it, pulled it more added fuel, same thing, i retarded my timming around 10 degrees and dumped fuel and it still did it. Then i found out it was the actual sound of my engine causing it to think the motor was knocking. I know the PowerFC's "Knock" sensor is actually pretty crappy and can't really distinguish between actual knock, and just noise from the engine bay.
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What it can be is actual engine noise. I know with my PowerFC it said i was knocking at a around 5000RPM, so i pulled the timming and it still did it, pulled it more added fuel, same thing, i retarded my timming around 10 degrees and dumped fuel and it still did it. Then i found out it was the actual sound of my engine causing it to think the motor was knocking. I know the PowerFC's "Knock" sensor is actually pretty crappy and can't really distinguish between actual knock, and just noise from the engine bay.
It`s exactly the same to me how you described it..
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