Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (nsxtasy)
205/50R15 86V
195/50R15 82V
165/50R15 73V
195/55R15 85V
165/55R14 72V
185/60R14 82H
kinda narrow sizes.... but at least theres something for a 14".
195/50R15 82V
165/50R15 73V
195/55R15 85V
165/55R14 72V
185/60R14 82H
kinda narrow sizes.... but at least theres something for a 14".
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (Tyson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">205/50R15 86V
195/50R15 82V
165/50R15 73V
195/55R15 85V
165/55R14 72V
185/60R14 82H
kinda narrow sizes.... but at least theres something for a 14".</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hopefully they make the RE-11 on the larger side of the scale. Just like the RE-01R!
195/50R15 82V
165/50R15 73V
195/55R15 85V
165/55R14 72V
185/60R14 82H
kinda narrow sizes.... but at least theres something for a 14".</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hopefully they make the RE-11 on the larger side of the scale. Just like the RE-01R!
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (Tyson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">205/50R15 86V
195/50R15 82V
165/50R15 73V
195/55R15 85V
165/55R14 72V
185/60R14 82H
kinda narrow sizes.... but at least theres something for a 14".</TD></TR></TABLE>that is VERY weird. i can understand the 185, kinda. but 165??
195/50R15 82V
165/50R15 73V
195/55R15 85V
165/55R14 72V
185/60R14 82H
kinda narrow sizes.... but at least theres something for a 14".</TD></TR></TABLE>that is VERY weird. i can understand the 185, kinda. but 165??
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (civexspeedy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civexspeedy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sweet! but, when will put these on the market and for how much??</TD></TR></TABLE>
The when question is answered (guessed at) in the link. Prices won't be set until then.
The when question is answered (guessed at) in the link. Prices won't be set until then.
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (thisisntjared)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thisisntjared »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that is VERY weird. i can understand the 185, kinda. but 165??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe for those micro cars that we do not have in North America.
Maybe for those micro cars that we do not have in North America.
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (h46it)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h46it »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Maybe for those micro cars that we do not have in North America.</TD></TR></TABLE>
heh, do ppl drive fast in those cars?
Maybe for those micro cars that we do not have in North America.</TD></TR></TABLE>
heh, do ppl drive fast in those cars?
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heh, do ppl drive fast in those cars? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't doubt it!!!
heh, do ppl drive fast in those cars?
</TD></TR></TABLE>I wouldn't doubt it!!!
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255/40R17s are mo betta
255/40R17s are mo betta
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (nsxtasy)
Incidentally, don't forget that other manufacturers are getting into this market, too. Dunlop has the Direzza Sport Z1 out already, Toyo is coming out with the R1R, and Kumho with the Ecsta XS.
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Incidentally, don't forget that other manufacturers are getting into this market, too. Dunlop has the Direzza Sport Z1 out already, Toyo is coming out with the R1R, and Kumho with the Ecsta XS.
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I know its great that there is so many great choices out there now. We can only hope if Bridgestone, and Dunlop bring there R's here aswell!!!
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I know its great that there is so many great choices out there now. We can only hope if Bridgestone, and Dunlop bring there R's here aswell!!!
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (h46it)
The Toyo T1R and the latest Bridgestone offering at the time didn't do very well in this Car and Driver tire test :
http://www.tirerack.com/images...s.pdf
Just because a tire is a new model doesn't mean it is any good, as clearly proven in that review.
http://www.tirerack.com/images...s.pdf
Just because a tire is a new model doesn't mean it is any good, as clearly proven in that review.
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (descartesfool)
Originally Posted by descartesfool
The Toyo T1R and the latest Bridgestone offering at the time didn't do very well in this Car and Driver tire test :
http://www.tirerack.com/images...s.pdf
Just because a tire is a new model doesn't mean it is any good, as clearly proven in that review.
http://www.tirerack.com/images...s.pdf
Just because a tire is a new model doesn't mean it is any good, as clearly proven in that review.
First of all, you need to understand that there are three basic kinds of performance summer tires. Quoting from the FAQ in the Wheels and Tires forum:
Originally Posted by Forum Rules and FAQ - READ BEFORE POSTING
<FONT SIZE="4">Tires FAQ</FONT>
What kinds of tires are there?
Broad groupings of tires include summer tires, winter tires, all-season tires, and competition tires.
Summer tires are designed for use for moderate to warm temperatures. If you are only going to be using your tires in temperatures above freezing, summer tires provide the best performance at those temperatures. With only a few exceptions, most summer tires do extremely well in rain as well as on dry pavement. Summer tires are not recommended for use in extreme cold conditions, and especially not on snow and ice.
There are several types of summer tires:
a. Specialty tires designed to maximize traction on dry pavement. Downsides typically include so-so traction in rain, and rapid treadlife. These are a good choice for someone who only cares about dry traction, such as those who use their tires for autocrosses or track events as well as normal driving. Recommended examples include the Falken Azenis RT-615 and Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R.
b. Top-of-the-line performance tires, designed for excellent traction on dry pavement and in rain, and very good treadlife. The primary downside is a rather high purchase price. These are a good choice for someone who wants excellent performance and also cares about grip in rain and/or about treadlife, and doesn't mind paying more for better performance. One recommended example is the Goodyear F1 GS-D3.
c. Budget performance tires, designed for good traction on dry pavement and in rain, very good treadlife, and a relatively low purchase price. The downside is that the performance is not quite as good as the previous two groups. These are a good choice for someone looking for good value as well as good performance and treadlife. Recommended examples include the Kumho Ecsta SPT, Avon Tech M500, and Yokohama ES100.
What kinds of tires are there?
Broad groupings of tires include summer tires, winter tires, all-season tires, and competition tires.
Summer tires are designed for use for moderate to warm temperatures. If you are only going to be using your tires in temperatures above freezing, summer tires provide the best performance at those temperatures. With only a few exceptions, most summer tires do extremely well in rain as well as on dry pavement. Summer tires are not recommended for use in extreme cold conditions, and especially not on snow and ice.
There are several types of summer tires:
a. Specialty tires designed to maximize traction on dry pavement. Downsides typically include so-so traction in rain, and rapid treadlife. These are a good choice for someone who only cares about dry traction, such as those who use their tires for autocrosses or track events as well as normal driving. Recommended examples include the Falken Azenis RT-615 and Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R.
b. Top-of-the-line performance tires, designed for excellent traction on dry pavement and in rain, and very good treadlife. The primary downside is a rather high purchase price. These are a good choice for someone who wants excellent performance and also cares about grip in rain and/or about treadlife, and doesn't mind paying more for better performance. One recommended example is the Goodyear F1 GS-D3.
c. Budget performance tires, designed for good traction on dry pavement and in rain, very good treadlife, and a relatively low purchase price. The downside is that the performance is not quite as good as the previous two groups. These are a good choice for someone looking for good value as well as good performance and treadlife. Recommended examples include the Kumho Ecsta SPT, Avon Tech M500, and Yokohama ES100.
As for the Bridgestone, it actually did quite well in the performance testing portion of the test, finishing fifth in dry performance and third in wet performance. It finished ninth overall primarily because of its higher price and poorer treadwear rating, not because of poor performance.
I am not saying that a new model tire is necessarily any better, just because it is new; I am saying that it is a mistake to draw such a conclusion based on how those two particular tires performed in that test.
As a general rule, you have to judge any specific tire based on its own merits, and how it compares with other tires on the market for price, dry performance, wet performance, treadlife, etc. You can't judge a tire based on when it was introduced, or what the brand name is, or sidewall ratings, etc. In other words, I'm not disagreeing with what you state as your conclusion, just with how you reached it.
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (nsxtasy)
Fifth in dry performance just doesn't do it for me. And as for budget tires like the Toyo T1R doing good for their price, but not good regardless of price, that doesn't do it for me either. Tires are by far the cheapest performance part on a car in terms of lap time. I buy the best I can find, like Michelin Pilot Sport Cups or Hoosiers on track, and Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's on the street. The Goodyear GS-D3 are excellent as well when wet performance is a priority.
In the Super Street/Eurotuner mag test from 2005, the then Toyo tire T1S did poorly as did the Bridgestone RE050 coming in 8th and 6th respectively overall. The Michelin PS2 won the test. The Michelin PS2 also even won the ultra high performance test in Consumer Reports from 2007. The RE050 came in 4th and the Toyo T1R came in 11th. The Goodyear GS-D3 came in 8th. So make your own judgment, but I always wait for good ratings in tests before I buy. I couldn't see myself buying either the Toyo or Bridgestone offerings.
There is a new European tire, the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric won a recent EVO magazine tire test. Not available here yet, but it should be a contender if they bring it over. They tested a lot of new tires in that test not sold here, and the new tires showed up the Michelin PS2, proving that the previous best is but a has-been when the newer models show up. But you have to know which newer model. I never guess without first seeing a test result, and I read every tire test I can find, since tires are so important.
see: http://eu.goodyear.com/home_en...O.jsp
Here is another test by Autocar in 2007 that rated the new Goodyear as best overall and rated the Bridgestone RE050 poorly (Michelin's PS2 came in second, very close to the new Goodyear):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
In the Super Street/Eurotuner mag test from 2005, the then Toyo tire T1S did poorly as did the Bridgestone RE050 coming in 8th and 6th respectively overall. The Michelin PS2 won the test. The Michelin PS2 also even won the ultra high performance test in Consumer Reports from 2007. The RE050 came in 4th and the Toyo T1R came in 11th. The Goodyear GS-D3 came in 8th. So make your own judgment, but I always wait for good ratings in tests before I buy. I couldn't see myself buying either the Toyo or Bridgestone offerings.
There is a new European tire, the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric won a recent EVO magazine tire test. Not available here yet, but it should be a contender if they bring it over. They tested a lot of new tires in that test not sold here, and the new tires showed up the Michelin PS2, proving that the previous best is but a has-been when the newer models show up. But you have to know which newer model. I never guess without first seeing a test result, and I read every tire test I can find, since tires are so important.
see: http://eu.goodyear.com/home_en...O.jsp
Here is another test by Autocar in 2007 that rated the new Goodyear as best overall and rated the Bridgestone RE050 poorly (Michelin's PS2 came in second, very close to the new Goodyear):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (descartesfool)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by descartesfool »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fifth in dry performance just doesn't do it for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
With a statement like that, you're showing that you still don't understand the difference between different kinds of tires. Some tires (like the RE-01R we're talking about here) are designed solely to give maximum dry performance, without regard to wet performance or treadlife. Other tires are designed to provide a balance of dry performance, wet performance, and treadlife. It's up to you to buy the tires that best match your needs. If you want tires that provide the maximum dry performance, you can get the RE-01R or Azenis or similar tire (such as the AD07 and KD that topped that particular test). If you also care about wet performance and/or treadlife along with dry performance, you can get tires like the F1 GS-D3 and the RE050A and the PS2.
Incidentally, finishing fifth in dry performance in a test of eleven top-of-the-line tires means that there were six other tires that did worse. Including some well-regarded tires like the Kumho MX and Hankook Z212. Sure there may be a few other tires that do even better, that you might prefer, but that's not bad by any means.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by descartesfool »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And as for budget tires like the Toyo T1R doing good for their price, but not good regardless of price, that doesn't do it for me either.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's fine that they don't do it for you, because they may be a good choice for other people. There are a lot of different tires on the market. Some offer top performance regardless of price, others offer a very good combination of performance and price, just like some are better in the dry, while others are decent in the dry and better in the wet. Different tires for different people with different priorities. Just because your priorities are not the same as other people doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with products that meet their needs better than yours.
With a statement like that, you're showing that you still don't understand the difference between different kinds of tires. Some tires (like the RE-01R we're talking about here) are designed solely to give maximum dry performance, without regard to wet performance or treadlife. Other tires are designed to provide a balance of dry performance, wet performance, and treadlife. It's up to you to buy the tires that best match your needs. If you want tires that provide the maximum dry performance, you can get the RE-01R or Azenis or similar tire (such as the AD07 and KD that topped that particular test). If you also care about wet performance and/or treadlife along with dry performance, you can get tires like the F1 GS-D3 and the RE050A and the PS2.
Incidentally, finishing fifth in dry performance in a test of eleven top-of-the-line tires means that there were six other tires that did worse. Including some well-regarded tires like the Kumho MX and Hankook Z212. Sure there may be a few other tires that do even better, that you might prefer, but that's not bad by any means.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by descartesfool »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And as for budget tires like the Toyo T1R doing good for their price, but not good regardless of price, that doesn't do it for me either.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's fine that they don't do it for you, because they may be a good choice for other people. There are a lot of different tires on the market. Some offer top performance regardless of price, others offer a very good combination of performance and price, just like some are better in the dry, while others are decent in the dry and better in the wet. Different tires for different people with different priorities. Just because your priorities are not the same as other people doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with products that meet their needs better than yours.
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (SHG_Mike)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SHG_Mike »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when are the R1R and XS coming out?</TD></TR></TABLE>
R1R is out. You can check out aimtire. XS still no word quite yet.
R1R is out. You can check out aimtire. XS still no word quite yet.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h46it »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">R1R is out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, the R1R is out, but not all the sizes shown in the photo in another topic, not yet. Right now only 195/50-15 plus a bunch of big 17" and larger sizes. Not just at AIM, but at all Toyo dealers, based on the fact that those are the only sizes shown in the spec sheet on Toyo's website. I'm sure the other sizes will be here soon enough, and the XS too, based on the fact that both were shown at the last SEMA show.
Yes, the R1R is out, but not all the sizes shown in the photo in another topic, not yet. Right now only 195/50-15 plus a bunch of big 17" and larger sizes. Not just at AIM, but at all Toyo dealers, based on the fact that those are the only sizes shown in the spec sheet on Toyo's website. I'm sure the other sizes will be here soon enough, and the XS too, based on the fact that both were shown at the last SEMA show.
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yes, the R1R is out, but not all the sizes shown in the photo in another topic, not yet. Right now only 195/50-15 plus a bunch of big 17" and larger sizes. Not just at AIM, but at all Toyo dealers, based on the fact that those are the only sizes shown in the spec sheet on Toyo's website. I'm sure the other sizes will be here soon enough, and the XS too, based on the fact that both were shown at the last SEMA show.
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Yes you are correct. Here in lovely Canada R1R is still not here at any Toyo Dealers. Sucks! I can only hope to see R1R before the roads are dry here.
Yes, the R1R is out, but not all the sizes shown in the photo in another topic, not yet. Right now only 195/50-15 plus a bunch of big 17" and larger sizes. Not just at AIM, but at all Toyo dealers, based on the fact that those are the only sizes shown in the spec sheet on Toyo's website. I'm sure the other sizes will be here soon enough, and the XS too, based on the fact that both were shown at the last SEMA show.
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Yes you are correct. Here in lovely Canada R1R is still not here at any Toyo Dealers. Sucks! I can only hope to see R1R before the roads are dry here.
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (nsxtasy)
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With a statement like that, you're showing that you still don't understand the difference between different kinds of tires....
.... Including some well-regarded tires like the Kumho MX..
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Thanks for clearing that up for me ken, as I clearly don't understand a thing about tires. I am glad to have a tire engineer like you clear that up for me and let me know the things I understand. I have to respect your scientific education. And I recall you recommending on this site those "well regarded" Kumho MX tires. Those "well-regarded" Kumho MX tires just happened to come in dead last in that TireRack/Car & driver test. Dead last. Reading that test shows that those Kumhos are the bottom feeders of the high performance tire market. But you label them as"well-regarded". A mystery. And as for the Toyo T1R for another example, in the CR test they were in the lowest rated group for dry handling, middle group for dry braking and in the worst group for tread wear, but in the best group for wet braking, same as the PS2. Overall score of 68 points (11 th out of 21) vs 85 for the winning PS2. I just can't see the point of spending any of my money on those Toyos.
The PS2's are expensive ($209 list for the tested size of 225/40-18) , and if you can't afford them, then the (made by Michelin) BF Goodrich KDW2 ($141) came in 3rd with 78 points. The Toyo T1R were $135, so you would save $6 a tire in the tested size and drop from 3rd place to 11 th. In the C&D test, the Toyo T1R came in dead last out of 11 in the overall dry-performance score and 3rd from last in the overall wet-performance score. I just cannot see why anyone would want to recommend them.
Anyhow for me dry lap time on a long road race course (unlike the short and low speed autocross type circuit used for Tirerack tests) is the most important indicator (this being the road-racing forum), and in that the PS2 is a top tier contender. See here for the Autocar mag 3.4 km dry track test results:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
Perhaps a new tire will be even better. Lap times will tell the tale.
With a statement like that, you're showing that you still don't understand the difference between different kinds of tires....
.... Including some well-regarded tires like the Kumho MX..
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Thanks for clearing that up for me ken, as I clearly don't understand a thing about tires. I am glad to have a tire engineer like you clear that up for me and let me know the things I understand. I have to respect your scientific education. And I recall you recommending on this site those "well regarded" Kumho MX tires. Those "well-regarded" Kumho MX tires just happened to come in dead last in that TireRack/Car & driver test. Dead last. Reading that test shows that those Kumhos are the bottom feeders of the high performance tire market. But you label them as"well-regarded". A mystery. And as for the Toyo T1R for another example, in the CR test they were in the lowest rated group for dry handling, middle group for dry braking and in the worst group for tread wear, but in the best group for wet braking, same as the PS2. Overall score of 68 points (11 th out of 21) vs 85 for the winning PS2. I just can't see the point of spending any of my money on those Toyos.
The PS2's are expensive ($209 list for the tested size of 225/40-18) , and if you can't afford them, then the (made by Michelin) BF Goodrich KDW2 ($141) came in 3rd with 78 points. The Toyo T1R were $135, so you would save $6 a tire in the tested size and drop from 3rd place to 11 th. In the C&D test, the Toyo T1R came in dead last out of 11 in the overall dry-performance score and 3rd from last in the overall wet-performance score. I just cannot see why anyone would want to recommend them.
Anyhow for me dry lap time on a long road race course (unlike the short and low speed autocross type circuit used for Tirerack tests) is the most important indicator (this being the road-racing forum), and in that the PS2 is a top tier contender. See here for the Autocar mag 3.4 km dry track test results:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
Perhaps a new tire will be even better. Lap times will tell the tale.
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Re: Replacement for Bridgestone RE-01R is Coming (descartesfool)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by descartesfool »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The PS2's are expensive ($209 list for the tested size of 225/40-18) , and if you can't afford them, then the (made by Michelin) BF Goodrich KDW2 ($141)
Anyhow for me dry lap time on a long road race course (unlike the short and low speed autocross type circuit used for Tirerack tests) is the most important indicator (this being the road-racing/autocross forum)</TD></TR></TABLE>
The PS2 is a great tire, but like you pointed out, it's pricey. However, I don't give half of two ***** what some test says about the rankings of the KDW2, because that is a shitty dry weather performance tire...period (all my opinion of course in my "low speed autocross type circuit" use...)
And speaking of this new RE-11, I can't f'ng wait, because the RE-01R has been a blessing and a curse in STS...It's considerably quicker than the spec RT-615 (always a plus), but now you gotta cough up some more cash to run them...I guess I'll just have to wait out for the RE-11, cause I can't justify getting rid of a good set of tires just yet...
The PS2's are expensive ($209 list for the tested size of 225/40-18) , and if you can't afford them, then the (made by Michelin) BF Goodrich KDW2 ($141)
Anyhow for me dry lap time on a long road race course (unlike the short and low speed autocross type circuit used for Tirerack tests) is the most important indicator (this being the road-racing/autocross forum)</TD></TR></TABLE>
The PS2 is a great tire, but like you pointed out, it's pricey. However, I don't give half of two ***** what some test says about the rankings of the KDW2, because that is a shitty dry weather performance tire...period (all my opinion of course in my "low speed autocross type circuit" use...)
And speaking of this new RE-11, I can't f'ng wait, because the RE-01R has been a blessing and a curse in STS...It's considerably quicker than the spec RT-615 (always a plus), but now you gotta cough up some more cash to run them...I guess I'll just have to wait out for the RE-11, cause I can't justify getting rid of a good set of tires just yet...