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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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I have recently purchased a 97 accord from a good friend. It is lowered with several other mods such as vtec controller and cold air intake. anyway. I havn't driven it much and i drove through a large water puddle today. the motor shut down. I am guessing that i sucked a bunch of water up into the motor. when i try to turn it over it just makes a clunk noise. How can I drain this motor? so i can get back on the road.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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Check the dipsticks for the engine and transmission. If there are water droplets clinging to the end of either dipstick, you absolutely, positively need to change the oil and filter b efore even thinking about starting the engine. If the water was muddy, it's probably wisest to remove the oil pan from the engine and wash the mud out. Change the oil and filter again in a few hundred miles, too.

Late-model cars have sea led fuel systems, and probably won't get any water in them. But that classic '55 T-Bird probably ingested some water if it was deep enough and lingered long enough. Siphon the fuel out into a container and look for water. If you find any, it's probably be st to drop the tank and get it cleaned professionally. Blow out the fuel line, and you may need to get water out of the carburetor float bowls as well. If you find evidence of water in a fuel-injected car or truck's tank, replace the fuel filter as well. That paper element will disintegrate if it gets waterlogged. It's not that a few drops of clean water are bad, but floodwater is usually pretty foul with silt and sludge.

Muddy water can infiltrate its way past engine seals within a few hours. Crankshaft seals, transmission seals and axle and CV joint seals are adequate to keep lubricants in, but they are not designed to keep standing water from creeping in. Before you start the engine, or tow a car with the wheels on the ground, drain a nd change the oil, transmission fluid and final-drive lube. Check the dipstick for water droplets. And don't forget wheel bearings and constant velocity joints, which will need to be cleaned and repacked. Some front-drive cars have sealed-for-life front a xle bearings, and you'll simply have to wait for those to fail, because it's nearly impossible to clean and relube them.

And then change those fluids again in a thousand miles or so if there was evidence of muddy water.


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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 03:45 AM
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If you just drove through, say, 12 inches of water (hundred feet?) at a normal speed , you don't necessarily have water inside your engine. And, water inside the engine don't prevent the car from starting. You may want to check the distributor cap and rotor. Check the spark plugs too. Someone here couple weeks ago had a similar experience like yours. The Cap and rotor were eroded, with white stuff growing. Water sip in there and the car won't start.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 04:53 AM
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What happens when you try and start your engine? I know you said it goes clunk but can you tell if the starter is engaging and trying to turn the engine over?

Will it turn over at all? If it does then I would say rotor plugs wires and check all of your ground wires for proper connection.

If you can't budge the crank/flywheel manually then I would say you have water in the cylinders.
And contrary to what was said above. Water will prevent your car from starting, it's called hydro-lock. In this case you will have to remove your spark plugs in order to pump the water out of the cylinders. You will probably have to change your oil a few times if there is any water that got passed the rings as well.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GhostAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What happens when you try and start your engine? I know you said it goes clunk but can you tell if the starter is engaging and trying to turn the engine over?

Will it turn over at all? If it does then I would say rotor plugs wires and check all of your ground wires for proper connection.

If you can't budge the crank/flywheel manually then I would say you have water in the cylinders.
And contrary to what was said above. Water will prevent your car from starting, it's called hydro-lock. In this case you will have to remove your spark plugs in order to pump the water out of the cylinders. You will probably have to change your oil a few times if there is any water that got passed the rings as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>


and pray you didn't bend a rod or seize the engine.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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check your belts. my dumass did that once. The serpentine belt snapped. Also I had a pulley that was damaged. I don't know where it came from my mechanic had showed me..probably due to taking my car on a swim. Yeah I would park the car and do an oil change and checking out other parts aforementioned
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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by the way the only way to tell if you have water in your engine is to take it out and send it to get tested.. think its called compression tested or something like that. They wanted to charge me 900 for it.... (AAMCO)
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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I think they may have seen you coming $900.. must have been for more than a compression test I would think.

You don't need to remove the engine to do a compression test or check for water. A compression test kit only cost $60 and you can do it yourself.

As for looking for water in the engine there are many ways to check. Check your oil dipstick, if the oil is creamy you have water. Drain the oil, if water fallows the oil then you have water in your engine. To check the cylinders you could remove the exhaust and or intake manifold and check to see if there is water sitting in the valve bowls. Or you could take the spark plugs out and lower a piece of thick cotton string down through the spark plug hole. When you pull it out if it has water on it voila, there's water in your cylinder.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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yeah it was a whole big fiasco with the dude from AAMCO. He was about to get knocked out. He told me that he would have to take the motor out and ship it elsewhere so it could get tested. I wasn't born last night so I said hell no for that i'd just buy another better car. Anyway they supposedly fixed my car and I asked them "did you change the serpentine belt?" and they dropped their jaws and said " the car works we drove it around for about 3 miles. I was like "you idiots!! i left the broken belt under the hood so you can see if its broken and i told you it was broken" anyway they said they'd fix it free of charge since they missed it and potentially did more harm to my car (what i told them) took me 2 weeks to get my car back. Guy tried to talk real slick on the phone not thinking I live 5 minutes from the shop. Never EVER go there again.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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If there is water in the oil or transmission fluid change that. Carburetor, fuel lines, fuel tank, and intake cleaning would be next if there is water there. After you do that, take the spark plugs out, and crank the engine, to shove the water out of the cylinders if there is any. Trying to start the engine with water in the cylinders can break something quickly, so don't do that again before removing the plugs and cranking the engine over. Good luck, and take the stupid intake off.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKFLSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If there is water in the oil or transmission fluid change that. Carburetor, fuel lines, fuel tank, and intake cleaning would be next if there is water there. After you do that, take the spark plugs out, and crank the engine, to shove the water out of the cylinders if there is any. Trying to start the engine with water in the cylinders can break something quickly, so don't do that again before removing the plugs and cranking the engine over. Good luck, and take the stupid intake off.</TD></TR></TABLE>


lol been hittin the bottle aready
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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lol been hittin the bottle aready </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sweet! -it up boyz!
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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lol been hittin the bottle aready </TD></TR></TABLE>

OK, Throttle body. Bottoms up!
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