Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

need help!! car wont turn over after auto-man swap..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 05:26 PM
  #1  
JDM_CRX_PLEASE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 0
From: SOCAL, Ca, US
Default **piks are up**need help! car wont turn over after auto_man

hello just did my swap and it wont turn over.. everything is hooked up. what could the problem be?? thanks!

this is the 97 HX wireharness pluged up into the p2n ECU. notice there is another plug extra..


this is the AT ECU. 4 slotss???


this is the part that plugs up into the ECU this is the AT harness.. notice only 3 plugs..



Modified by JDM_CRX_PLEASE at 4:09 PM 12/29/2007


Modified by JDM_CRX_PLEASE at 9:29 PM 12/29/2007


Modified by JDM_CRX_PLEASE at 9:37 PM 12/29/2007
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:07 PM
  #2  
jdmek2277's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
From: miami, fl, USA
Default Re: need help!! car wont turn over after auto-man swap.. (JDM_CRX_PLEASE)

did u check the power wire that goes to the starter
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:12 PM
  #3  
slo_hatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,367
Likes: 0
From: Northeast TN
Default Re: need help!! car wont turn over after auto-man swap.. (JDM_CRX_PLEASE)

do you still have the ecu as an auto?
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:20 PM
  #4  
philosofy1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,473
Likes: 1
From: Orlando, FL
Default Re: need help!! car wont turn over after auto-man swap.. (JDM_CRX_PLEASE)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_CRX_PLEASE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hello just did my swap and it wont turn over.. everything is hooked up. what could the problem be?? thanks!</TD></TR></TABLE>

chances are you didn't connect the 2 thick wires that were running to the auto shifter (common mistake).

you want to connect the green wire with the black/white and black/red wire. after doing this yur car should start with no problems.
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:26 PM
  #5  
JDM_CRX_PLEASE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 0
From: SOCAL, Ca, US
Default

i already conected the big 2 wires and blk/blu wires together. and i noticed when i lpugd up the ecu that there was a extra plug that goes into the ecu. but all the slots were taken by the engine harness..
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:32 PM
  #6  
philosofy1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,473
Likes: 1
From: Orlando, FL
Default Re: (JDM_CRX_PLEASE)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_CRX_PLEASE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i already conected the big 2 wires and blk/blu wires together. and i noticed when i lpugd up the ecu that there was a extra plug that goes into the ecu. but all the slots were taken by the engine harness..</TD></TR></TABLE>

what to mean extra slots? there are 3 clips that go into the ecu, that's it, there are no other slots.

when doing a auto &gt; manual swap you don't change anything on the floor harness or ecu, unless you are wiring for vtec.
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:33 PM
  #7  
philosofy1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,473
Likes: 1
From: Orlando, FL
Default Re: need help!! car wont turn over after auto-man swap.. (slo_hatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slo_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you still have the ecu as an auto?</TD></TR></TABLE>

this had nothing to do with it.

also, OP, have you grounded all your ground wires?
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:33 PM
  #8  
Cln94EG1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,488
Likes: 0
From: Kansas City, Kansas
Default Re: (philosofy1)

Check all Grounds
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:40 PM
  #9  
philosofy1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,473
Likes: 1
From: Orlando, FL
Default Re: (cln92eg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cln92eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check all Grounds</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, thanks captain obvious!
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:43 PM
  #10  
JDM_CRX_PLEASE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 0
From: SOCAL, Ca, US
Default

yeah all the wires are hooked up. and the 3 wires that are from the engine harness that come though the fire wall are hooked up in the ecu. but there is another gray plug with like a white stripe on the side is still hangin there... and i dont think the fuel pump is priming cause i dont hear it
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:45 PM
  #11  
Cln94EG1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,488
Likes: 0
From: Kansas City, Kansas
Default Re: (philosofy1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philosofy1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yeah, thanks captain obvious! </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm just trying to help
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:52 PM
  #12  
philosofy1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,473
Likes: 1
From: Orlando, FL
Default Re: (JDM_CRX_PLEASE)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_CRX_PLEASE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah all the wires are hooked up. and the 3 wires that are from the engine harness that come though the fire wall are hooked up in the ecu. but there is another gray plug with like a white stripe on the side is still hangin there... and i dont think the fuel pump is priming cause i dont hear it</TD></TR></TABLE>

man, i really have no clue to what you are talking about. you don't have to touch any harness or ecu. unless you have some pics to post up with your question, i'm clueless. the 3 wires that you are talking, are those the wires you ran for vtec?

actually, lets back this up a bit. what year civic are you working on and the motor?
year of the motor too if possible.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cln92eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm just trying to help </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 10:00 PM
  #13  
JDM_CRX_PLEASE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 0
From: SOCAL, Ca, US
Default

k ill start from the beigging. i have a 00 DX hatch with 97HX fullll swap. converted from auto- manual. i did all the wiring already needed to do for the swap. so my problem is. the wires i ran through the firewall. which is the engine harness has 3 plugs on there that go into the ECU (p2n) and the green wires that hook up to each other are pluged. but there is one more plug just hanging there. it is gray. and it fits in slot A of the ECU but there is already the a plug in there from the harness.. get me?
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 10:02 PM
  #14  
JDM_CRX_PLEASE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 0
From: SOCAL, Ca, US
Default

also. when i try to start my car it just cranks but dosnt turn over..
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 10:11 PM
  #15  
philosofy1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,473
Likes: 1
From: Orlando, FL
Default Re: (JDM_CRX_PLEASE)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_CRX_PLEASE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k ill start from the beigging. i have a 00 DX hatch with 97HX fullll swap. converted from auto- manual. i did all the wiring already needed to do for the swap. so my problem is. the wires i ran through the firewall. which is the engine harness has 3 plugs on there that go into the ECU (p2n) and the green wires that hook up to each other are pluged. but there is one more plug just hanging there. it is gray. and it fits in slot A of the ECU but there is already the a plug in there from the harness.. get me?</TD></TR></TABLE>

why didn't you just swap out tranny's instead?
please be patient with me as i try to understand what you are doing. now, i'm not sure how identical the HX and DX motors are, i do know the HX is mainly for more fuel saving. i also know it has the odd throttle body, not sure if the sensors work and hook up the same.

now, you should never had to run any wires are harness, from what i am thinking, it should have plugged up with no problems. now, yes there is going to be a clip in slot A of the harness because this is where you DX harness is running too.


Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 10:16 PM
  #16  
JDM_CRX_PLEASE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 0
From: SOCAL, Ca, US
Default

casue my original motor(d16a) had rod knock so i just got a complete swap(d16y5)
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 10:21 PM
  #17  
philosofy1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,473
Likes: 1
From: Orlando, FL
Default Re: (JDM_CRX_PLEASE)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_CRX_PLEASE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">casue my original motor(d16a) had rod knock so i just got a complete swap(d16y5)</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm...OK, then all you had to do was just take the harness off of the DX motor and add it to the HX motor (if it did not have a harness). unfortuantely i do not understand what you are mentioning about a grey wire and 3 wires running to the ecu.

maybe it's because i'm too tired. i've been up 24 hours (it's time to go to bed) and came on here to relax, which it worked. sorry i couldn't be much help, but if you still haven't figured out tomorrow, i'll do some reasearch.

sorry...
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2007 | 10:25 PM
  #18  
JDM_CRX_PLEASE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 0
From: SOCAL, Ca, US
Default

its ok thanks thiught.. ill post pisc so u can see what im talkin bout..
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2007 | 02:21 PM
  #19  
JDM_CRX_PLEASE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,963
Likes: 0
From: SOCAL, Ca, US
Default

bumppp
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
civicboost89
Honda Civic (2001 - 2005)
3
Sep 22, 2008 10:08 PM
EK-Bpower
Acura Integra Type-R
5
Aug 2, 2008 10:46 PM
EK-Bpower
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
Aug 2, 2008 12:25 PM
sealz
Acura TSX
3
Nov 1, 2007 10:37 PM
lude97dude
Honda Prelude
21
Jan 26, 2003 10:14 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:01 PM.