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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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ok, i have an old hood laying in my garage and i was just thinking that i wanna make it into a ram air hood, but i need some ideas from you creative folks out there!!! anyone fill me in, i am willing to cut holes and stuff, it will just be for when i race, not everyday driving, some one help me out!!!!!
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 11:56 AM
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ehhhh
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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I'd forgo on doing that I think

if you wanted to make one in the front headlight I could maybe see it.

sell the hood and use the cash for an icebox or something.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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if youre really set on doing it i have a friend who made one by (get ready) he cut it out and used CARDBOARD then coevered it with Bondo, it's ghetto but it worked. try it out
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 02:31 PM
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yea, its pointless to sell the hood, because it has major hail damage, so its not worth anything at all, and i just have it laying around, so i figured i might as well do something with it, oytherwise just through it away!
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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I think I'll be the first one to, well you get the idea;




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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 02:58 PM
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I've been thinking about building a ram air setup as well. My best idea so far is to put the inlet at the airdam in the bumper and feed it to my shortram's filter, which would be enclosed in a box (and I could easily remove that box to kill the ram air effect and safely go through car washes, heavy rain, etc).

I don't know how feasible it is to make a good ram air hood setup for an Integra, but I know a guy that has one on his Cavalier Z24... I believe it makes a decent difference for him; he just has that and exhaust and he gave me a much better run than another Z24 with exhaust (and possibly intake, not sure). I still beat both of them, of course. Anyways, his setup has his filter sit in it's normal location, and it has a box around it. The top of the box is open and has foam around the edges. When the hood is closed, the air duct from the hood scoop fits right into that box and presumably makes an air tight connection. Pretty slick setup, but he didn't build it himself or anything.

I don't have any pics of under his hood, but here's what the scoop looks like: http://vmac.org/~weston/teg/Misc/200...3/dcp_1088.jpg
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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yea, at least yo get the idea, everyone else is like, why waste your time, and i fugure why the hell not, its a hail damaged hood, its sitting in my garage, and is useless to anyone else, so why not benefit out of the peice of crap and take a couple tenths off my 1/4 mile time it costs me nothing, but i just have to think of something, but thats the type of setup i want kinda like whats on that cavalier, but i have to figure out the best way to construct it myself, haha, thanks though
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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It's always cool to see homemade mod projects. They are a lot more interesting and less expensive than overpriced off-the-shelf mods. If it weren't for people innovating, we there wouldn't be any mods at all. (Just something for people to keep in mind before they start flameing out of fear of creativity.)

BTW, how much did that ECU help your performance? Any before/after 1/4mile or dyno runs?



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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 04:02 PM
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wel, before; i ran a 15.9 1/4 mile time with a old shitty short ram and dirty filter, and custom exhaust
after;15.3 the pyr racing ecu, neuspeed lowering springs, same intake, same exhaust
i just ordered some new goodies, so in another month i will be lost somewhere in the 14's, and i now have an iceman intake, and msd cap and blaster ss external coil, then when i get the crower 404 cams, valve springs, and retainers, and my msd digital 6, and my head all done im hoping to be at 14.5, but we'l see!!


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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 09:51 PM
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what does the chip do your your lightly modded teg? im not flaming i just would be interested in one, to drop a few tenths i run 15.6 with the listed mods.....a hot night but not bad for full interior and 15lb rims

so where did u get the PYR chip and what exactly is it doing......adjusting fuel curve? what?
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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 02:16 PM
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it adjusts the fuel curve and advances the timing , but i thought it made a hell of a difference, i bought the whole ecu used from a guy for 150 bucks, and he got it chipped at pyr racing.com
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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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when i saw the dc sports itr's waaaayy back they had a neat/trick setup w/ the right side headlight. it was fabricated where there was filter inside the box and everything, really nice. dont know how much hp it will net ya but you might just want to stick w/ the typical aem/icebox setup if the gain is minimal.
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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I thought of this idea the other day when I was flipping through SCC (not that I would ever do it)...

What if you put a scoop on the hood similar to what the WRX has and somehow mounted one of those front mount intake systems to the firewall or to the of the IM, then run the intake tubing directly to the TB.
It would have to be dry weather only.
It was just a thought.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 06:54 AM
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I've been thinking about building a ram air setup as well. My best idea so far is to put the inlet at the airdam in the bumper and feed it to my shortram's filter, which would be enclosed in a box (and I could easily remove that box to kill the ram air effect and safely go through car washes, heavy rain, etc).
Here is my "ram air" setup. I primarily use it on the track, but I have used it on the street a few time. It connects to my DIY "Icebox" ( http://www.geocities.com/bretq/DIY_Icebox_CAI.html ). Here are a few pictures:





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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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where did you get that fitting that you used for that/? can u make me a list of parts i need for it?? did it make a difference??
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 10:13 AM
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Wow, BSQ, I have a setup almost identical to that. I got scared at first and thought somebody took my pictures. For mine, I just took out the resonator, broke the housing off and kept the tube that comes down from the air box and bends 90degrees towards the right of the car. Then, I bought some 4" intake hose from R&S strauss and attached itto the lens and to the tube. The hose had some nifty clips attached to it so I just popped it on. I drive with it everyday and never had any problems with the car or with the law. I get scared when its raining, but I havent had a single bit of problem yet. It's pretty damn amazing how great it works, especially considering I'm using a stock air filter. I can't wait to see the world of difference when my K&n drop in finally comes in.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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Just take out a headlight and have the filter sit beehind the opening.....that easy.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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where did you get that fitting that you used for that/?
The black plastic "connector" is from Home Depot and it cost ~$3.50. It is used to connect rectangular downspouting to 3" PVC piping. I had to remove 1/4" of material from each side (see photo) so that it would fit around the lense properly. I also place cuts every 120 degrees so that the "connector" would slip over the intake air horn.


can u make me a list of parts i need for it??
- black plastic connector
- passenger side turn signal lense

did it make a difference??
I have used it twice on the track and the engine "appeared" to pull harder, especially when the speed exceeded 75-80 mph. I would like to run some test to confirm that it helps.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 01:00 PM
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Remember that for it to actually be "ram air" you must remove the air filter.

Not suggested for ANY use.

The filter will negate any significant gain in positive air pressure.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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You sir, are a steely-eyed-missle-man! Great design!
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 01:54 PM
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how did you cut the turn signal? i saw this thread and was thinking about doing it. i took out my dremel and was really tempted, but i decided to get some advice from people that have already done it.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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simple... First you have to modify the intake tube. I suggest turning it 90 degrees so that the filter will be above the motor. Then cut a hole in the hood so the filter comes out of the top. Close hood. VIOLA!!! Instant RAM air.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 06:33 PM
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You don't rally wnat to make atrue "ram-air" but more of a cold air induction system. You don't want to speed the velocity of the air into the cumbustion chamber, if anything you want to slow it down. That makes more power.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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You don't rally wnat to make atrue "ram-air" but more of a cold air induction system. You don't want to speed the velocity of the air into the cumbustion chamber, if anything you want to slow it down. That makes more power.
You must not understand how a turbocharger works do you?

Increasing speed relatively COMPRESSES the incoming air... Allow me to explain.

Q. HOW DOES A TURBOCHARGER WORK?

A. A turbocharger is essentially an exhaust-driven air compressor. And since an engine's performance is directly related to how much air (mixed with fuel) it can pump, a turbocharger helps it breathe better. Here's a somewhat simplified example of the turbocharger function: A turbocharger uses two fans ("turbines") mounted on a single shaft.

Each of the fans operate inside a separate hallway and are spun using the same principle as a typical water wheel. The first fan is spun by used exhaust gasses blowing out of the engine. This first fan drives a second fan operating in the other hallway, where incoming air is being channeled into the engine -- thereby pressurizing (pushing) fresh air into the engine.

One fan spins from exhaust going out and the other fan pushes fresh air coming in. The more you mash down on the gas pedal, the more the exhaust gasses drive the boost of incoming air into your engine. More air helps the engine produce more power, and zoom you go!
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