Who makes the best detail products for cars. I heard that you should stay away from synthetics. I thought Meguiars would be a good place to look, but its synthetic. I have a brand new painted car and I want to get the most out of my paint with waxes, polishes, and washing detergents. Anyone with any sense have any insight and/or suggestions?

 

 

I like Menzerna and Clear Kote.

 

I don't do much waxing at all, I just use whats available. I would like to hear some specific advice on a good wax that applies easy and cleans up easy too. If your paint is super fresh, give it 30-60 days to completely fully cure before waxing. Here is a link to the polish I use, works really good, safe for super fresh paint. I also use an air powered, high rpm, dual action, random orbit polisher tool that makes it a breeze to do.
http://3m.hillas.com/pc-26964-....aspx

 

yeh I have a dewalt 849 but I need peoples input on using products with synthetics in them because I hear that its not to good for the paint over time.

 

I'm not an experienced detailer, just a good, experienced painter and I've never heard that before w/ any relative info or situation to back that statement up. I'm sure there is a plethora of chemicals/synthetic material that could be exposed to paint, and not good for it over time. Seems like a pretty broad and general statement, maybe its a specific kind of synthetic substance. Considering all the synthetic material thats available and used on paint, I would have a hard time believing current high quality paints are going to go to **** in the long run.

 

^^^^^ agreed but I was asking because i asked my painter if there was anything special I should do with new paint. He said do not use armorall products especially their car wash because it has synthetics in it. I dont know what that means so I thought I would post up and ask. I am using HOK paint and clear coat (which is hard) so maybe I will call them and ask what they suggest to wash it. Just like they sa not to use dish detergent.

 

In regards to fresh paint and autobody in general, products are labeled "bodyshop safe for fresh paint" or not. Some products do have certain substances that are not good for fresh paint and /or to have near a prep/paint area in a shop. I'm sure thats what he was referencing. If a product wasn't clearly described or intended for fresh paint use I would def. call them up or the tech support line for the product. I'm the type of guy that reads the bottle and I really appreciate when a company has a clear desription regarding this stuff.

 

Heres my .02, I only have a detailing business.

Polishes= MENZERNA HANDS DOWN. Nothing compares to their polishes.

Wax=I perfer to use Meguiars #21 synthetic sealant. hoever said avoid synthetics doesnt know what they are talking about. #21 will last for MONTHS, even down here int he FL sun. I like to top it with a coat of #26 Megs Hi-Tech Wax. My truck still sheeted water away like cray 4 months after applying the two.

Keeping your paint swirl free: Use the two bucket method (look it up if you dont know what that is), and I like to use grout sponges, they are very soft and leave a minimal shance of marring/swirling.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E-Rok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heres my .02, I only have a detailing business.

Polishes= MENZERNA HANDS DOWN. Nothing compares to their polishes.

Wax=I perfer to use Meguiars #21 synthetic sealant. hoever said avoid synthetics doesnt know what they are talking about. #21 will last for MONTHS, even down here int he FL sun. I like to top it with a coat of #26 Megs Hi-Tech Wax. My truck still sheeted water away like cray 4 months after applying the two.

Keeping your paint swirl free: Use the two bucket method (look it up if you dont know what that is), and I like to use grout sponges, they are very soft and leave a minimal shance of marring/swirling.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

we just started using waterbased paint months ago at my shop..

 

Meguairs Synthetic Sealent works real well. Meguairs Tech wax does a badass job too. I use both of those at work.

 

I'm a painter and worked as a detailer in the past. I have never heard of avoiding synthetics, however, I have heard of avoiding Armour-All products. Armour-All products contain silicone, and silicone can cause problems with your paint. Waxing it too early (before the paint fully cures, which can take up to 90 days depending on the paint) can cause tiny bubbles to form in the paint. As the paint cures, it releases the solvent that it is mixed with. Waxing seals the surface of the car, and the solvents push the paint off. Another reason to avoid products containing silicone is that it <U>will</U> cause fish eyes if it is repainted again (tiny craters in the paint.) A friend of mine had a mint black Ford F-150 Flareside and he used Armour-All wax, when the hood was painted to fix some stone chips, it took 3 tries to get it right. The silicone can be removed, but it's miserable work to clean it up.