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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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help me out guys i am doing a GSR ob2 into a 97 ek hatch could i use the civic ex engine harness for the swap or should i just use the GSR engine harness??? help me anyone
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Hmm. I used my Ex one because it was a JDM B18C motor swap. I'd go with the GSR harness. I don't see why not.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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i know what ur saying now but i dont have an gsr harness i have a ex harness. so now i dont know what to do in some places the harness is not long enough to reach the sensor, by the way how much it a gsr engine harness?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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use the ex harness...

the integra harness is 2 piece and will not work
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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so i would have to extend in some areas of the harness to make it fit right?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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like iat (different sensor too), maybe evap
thats all really
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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You ex harness should work.. If it's not make sure that you plugging the right connector to the sensor. If by some chance it does not work then you have to options,

1. find a ek B16 harness

2 extend the wires to the proper length.

I have not seen one that need the wires extended.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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what kind of sensors?? and where can i get it and for how much?? right now we are putting it together i will post some picture when we are done. thanx guys
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Opps. My bad. For some reason I thought you had both harnesses and didn't know what one to use. You have to use the Ex one. I had to extend my o2 sensor wire because on the EX motor its near the header inlet to the motor. On GSR's its under the motor near behind the oil pan. I just extended that one.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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The em1 b16 harness is just as wrong as using the 2pc dc harness....

On the 96-00 the IAT is located on the intake arm, on everything else its on the intake manifold...thats why you have to extend it AND get a different plug. Go to a junkyard and cut the pigtail off any other civic or any integra.
Evap moves from the front of the manifold, to the rear.
Ditto on the o2 - Id just buy an extension harness from casper:
http://www.casperselectronics....=HOND
Saves errors in sensitive o2 wiring
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
http://www.casperselectronics....=HOND
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Wish I knew about that before.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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isn't the o2 sensor a 4 wire and a not a 1 or 2 like the rest?? (more of a statement then a question)

and I was confused on the question like the rest.

just extend the wires to the proper length, Do one wire at a time though.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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I wish I could answer your ?? even though you said it was a statement. But my buddy was extending the wire for me while I was doing something else. pdiggity will tell you though.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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As long as the harness is a OBDII harness you'll be fine. Just extend the few wires that are need and your set.

And if you car was vtec before the swap the you have a 4 wire o2 alread and you'll have nothing to worry about.

There should only be like 3-4 sensors that are need to extend.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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i see the 4 wire o2 sensor but the o2 sensor behind the cat is that one a 4 wire also?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Correct.. you should have to 4 wire o2's.

You'll have a Pre-cat and after cat. the pre-cat should plug right in. The after cat is the one your going to have to extend. You have to do this with and car that cam stock with a D-series and swapped to B.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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thats weird i only see one 4 wire o2 sensor plug. i cant seem to find the other one? ummm... thanx for the info tho
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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What one can't you find?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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the second plug for the after cat o2
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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If I remember correctly, the GSR has one right before the cat. My OEM Ex other sensor is in the cat?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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the one that is important, is the one on the header.

What ecu are you going to be running?

please give me the details of this.. any specific map or tune? did you do any deletes?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Ok im putting in an 98 gsr in to my ek..and the only thing that was interfering is that the i was using the civic ex engine harness onto the gsr and on some part of the harness wont reach to the plugs. and another question i have is that will my stock dx o2 sensor will fit rite onto the gsr o2 sensor or cat?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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WTF? You already asked this and we went over it.

You're Dx sensor will fit the GSR header. The o2 plug is on the header. Do you want pictures? One second.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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yes the stock o2 will work

hondaman be respectful.. Everyone needs help sometimes, And some time it gets frustrating but ya just got to keep your cool.

Arent I trying to help you in a different tread?

just be cool man
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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I didn't mean anything by that. Just wasn't sure why he asked his question after we went through a lot of stuff. Im the nicest dude in the world.

EDTI: Oh about the pictures!!! It was a nice way if it came out wrong. Trying to find pictures now...
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