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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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can't remember whos car this is either, was looking for the thread to see if it came up in there but couldn't find it...

I did some searching and couldn't find any info on if they were or not... for any sanctioned racing particularly NHRA (SFWD) so if someone could chime in that would be great,

I'm going to be building a cage this weekend/next week and rememberd seeing these and thought it would be nice for gettine in and out of a daily driven car but wasn't sure if when i went to the track on the weekend if they would allow them because of possibly being too low but it seems as though that where the bar connects to the main hoop is at shoulder heght...

so yes/no why/why not
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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somewhere i remember them having to be between your elbow and shoulder but i could be wrong.

waiting for a few key people to chime in.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">somewhere i remember them having to be between your elbow and shoulder but i could be wrong.

waiting for a few key people to chime in.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's absolutely correct. So unless the owner of that car is a midget (no offense to any "little people" on here, no they don't appear to be legal, although that is a bad angle. And if you want ease of ingress/egress, just use a swingout
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Default Re: are these door bars legal?? (Clayton)

Try here:
http://www.nhrasportcompact.co...7.pdf
scroll down to the rollbar section
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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lol okay, what I was thinking but thought if someone had done it and posted and no one said anything then maybe it was??

yeah I didn't like the angle either (other than getting around the door panel and making for aneasier entrance/exit) but thought the bracing behind it was a decent solution...

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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Clayton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's absolutely correct. So unless the owner of that car is a midget (no offense to any "little people" on here, no they don't appear to be legal, although that is a bad angle. And if you want ease of ingress/egress, just use a swingout</TD></TR></TABLE>
Screw you and the rest of you "Big people"...J/K. Those bars aren't legal.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">somewhere i remember them having to be between your elbow and shoulder but i could be wrong.

waiting for a few key people to chime in.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is correct and it seems like the one lower bar going back to the rear strut brace bar is unnecessary and also missing some D-bars.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Yeah, the only thing good I can see is that it clears the door panel. Legality, probably not.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PHDZINE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This is correct and it seems like the two bars going back to the rear strut brace bar is unnecessary and also missing some D-bars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Clayton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's absolutely correct. So unless the owner of that car is a midget (no offense to any "little people" on here, no they don't appear to be legal, although that is a bad angle. And if you want ease of ingress/egress, just use a swingout</TD></TR></TABLE>

who hooo i was right in something !!!! on that note im goin to bed. nother long day tomorrow.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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Might be a drift car
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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A Honda Civic Drift car...I doubt it or are you be sarcastic?
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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lol dorifto...

but yeah I know in the thread there were a couple things wrong with the cage ie. (the main hoop was not one piece, rather the crossbar "A" was welded to the car and the hoop welded to the bar... so i believe he fixed that and he did add soem "D" bars these pictures were not of the completed cage.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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this is where the door "should be"... the rulebook puts it in words as "the bar passes halfway between your elbow and shoulder in a normal driving position."

If it varies too much from this; then it isnt legal. it cant be too high, and it cant be too low. it needs to be in the middle.

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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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if you do not wish to run faster then 11.49 then yes they are legal.
you can use an angle(bend) on the door bars,it does not have to be straight
however you must use the bend much farther foward that will help you get in and out a little eaiser
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 04:35 AM
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sounds good, yes will def. be running faster than 11.49, what about the "HALO" (not the game ) I've seen them all one piece ie

and where it just follows the main hoop down the A-pillar ie how Tony1 does it


I'm assuming both are legal but the guy doing the bending and welding for me wants to know and I also don't like to ***-u-me...

but for safety purpose which one would be stronger in the event of a rollover??
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 05:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TwinT66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try here:
http://www.nhrasportcompact.co...7.pdf
scroll down to the rollbar section
Tony</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is the best post in this thread. Read these or have your "welder" read it. It explains everything you need to know about properly building a drag spec cage
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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That cage is in my car.
And the door bars probably are not legal in NHRA, since I’m not a midget, but for what I use the car for they are perfect. Several of my friends have had the same set up and have never been hassled at events nor the weekend drags for the bars being to low though. I just really hate climbing in over straight bars. haha, here is a link to my thread.
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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cage sux
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PHDZINE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A Honda Civic Drift car...I doubt it or are you be sarcastic?</TD></TR></TABLE>Sorry, just trying to have a little fun now. I was j/k. I would like you to check out this video though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmP3au8UoXc
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