Good Day, we all love our honda's
And i would like to propose we have a 12-13 second check list.

i know 10 seconds is extreme, and a 12-13 will make most people happy.

If we create this list in Priority order people can do the mods and we can follow there performance gains. Yes we all wanna be the fastest or at least competitive and currently the guys running in the 10's are the guys with the BIG cash and i know they wanna keep there sectets(Let them keep it) buts lets put our heads together and see how far honda tech can take us.

Has anyone been monitoring anyone who has taken there car from the 16 seconds into the 12-13's....

This is a Broad subject so lets start at the END, how much power will see us in the 12's? with the correct setup in full street trim? 500hp from a B16 too much?

 

I dont know where this topic is gonna go but it needs to be well documented and broken up into the specific Catergorys like HP, Tracion, Weight, Then elaborated on.

"How does a ghetto turbo'd H get into the 12's? i have a 1500cc BTW"


Modified by schwitzerT at 4:39 PM 12/22/2007

 

it doesnt cost big cash to run fast . It takes knowledge and skill.
Of course you need cash but you dont need " big cash" to run 10s.

Not really sure where this topic is going to go though . . .

 

If your asking if 500 hp is too much your clearly showing you didnt take the time to actually look at any setups.

My car with a Boosted d15 went 12.1 on slicks, daily driven, but GUTTED.
Car should still go 12.9 on DR's and full interior.
Does that help at all ?

 

<-----12.6 @ 222 whp in a EF hatch b20vtec (all motor)....

i dont think this thread will go far...because you can do it all motor or forced induction(turb0, supercharged, or NOS)...

 

2985 lb Prelude H22+i/h/e+Flywheel+75 shot N2O+22 inch tall MT slicks=consistant 13.3 sec@103 mph passes. That was in 2001.
2150 lb Civic H23 VTAK!!+240shot+26 Tall slick+ stock ECU+ driver sitting in center of car=10.6 @ 133 mph

 

1993 civic dx 4 door with gsr swap and peakboost kit with t3/t04e 60 trim on 10 psi...12.2@116

also ran 12.5@112 witht eh same motor in a cx hatch but it was a drag gen III with a t3/t04e 57 trim on 7 psi

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr. D-Series &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
My car with a Boosted d15 went 12.1 on slicks, daily driven, but GUTTED.
Car should still go 12.9 on DR's and full interior.
Does that help at all ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

my d 15 is running high 14's with 225bhp, on street tryes and im trying to figure out what i have done wrong?

When you guys started racing what was your Biggest performance enhancers?

 

what is drag gen III ?
i am yet to run in the 13's,there are N/A cars running faster than me WTF is going on? Do you guys use Semi or Full slicks, does warming them up not expletive up yur cv's & Gearbox's? I wanna run gewd times in Full Street trim and with street legal tyres! Is it possible?

 

You need to stop. Search. Learn.
All your questions have been answered in tons of threads.

 

You need to search around and learn instead of expecting everyone to tell you how to go fast. And you don't need much to go 12's with a turbo honda.

 

drag gen III is a turbo kit. im a little confused as to what you are asking here...but the others are right..search and you will find every answer you need. untill then here is what you need to run consistent 12's:

civic
good turbo kit
slicks
some kinda skill

if you can get that together you got yerself a 12 second car! as far as slicks breaking ****...preload and you will have no probs. i launched at 7500rpms on stock axels and stock trans many times and never broke anything

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by japan4racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">drag gen III is a turbo kit. im a little confused as to what you are asking here...but the others are right..search and you will find every answer you need. untill then here is what you need to run consistent 12's:

civic
good turbo kit
slicks
some kinda skill

if you can get that together you got yerself a 12 second car! as far as slicks breaking ****...preload and you will have no probs. i launched at 7500rpms on stock axels and stock trans many times and never broke anything</TD></TR></TABLE>

Preload? what is that? English is weak

is this the correct GEN 3 Drag Kit?
http://www.streetconcepts.com/...d=310

 

that is the correct turbo kit...its a great beginner turbo kit. and preload is what you do to prevent "shocking" the axels/trans pull up the ebrake and ease out on the clutch to put a load on the axels...if you do this they will thank you when you drop it at 7500rpms!

 

easiest way. any 1.6 sohc, 22x8 slicks, and a 75 shot wet kit. cheap coilovers, and bam 12-13 second car for under 800 bux after car

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Garage 808 Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">easiest way. any 1.6 sohc, 22x8 slicks, and a 75 shot wet kit. cheap coilovers, and bam 12-13 second car for under 800 bux after car</TD></TR></TABLE>

Naah that cant be right i know many people who run 300bhp and cant get into the 13's and i know people running 400bhp FWD that are running low 13's but no were near 12's. IT CANT BE THAT EASY!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by japan4racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that is the correct turbo kit...its a great beginner turbo kit. and preload is what you do to prevent "shocking" the axels/trans pull up the ebrake and ease out on the clutch to put a load on the axels...if you do this they will thank you when you drop it at 7500rpms!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Who wants a Bigginer Kit? Surely im passed that with my setup...
Preload, im gonna start preloading!!!!

 

Racing ain't cheap!

Even if you can get into 12's, how long can you keep doin it? You gonna break stuff and learn from there to get used to these numbers.

 

Mista bone went 13.09 with a z6 on 75 shot. Quaife lsd. 92-95 hatch.
Dont say it cant be done.

Like I said before. My 202whp 90 gutted hatch went 12.1-12.4 MULTIPLE times.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schwitzerT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Naah that cant be right i know many people who run 300bhp and cant get into the 13's and i know people running 400bhp FWD that are running low 13's but no were near 12's. IT CANT BE THAT EASY!

Who wants a Bigginer Kit? Surely im passed that with my setup...
Preload, im gonna start preloading!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>


I ran a D16Z6 in a 95DX hatch, 20x6 MT slicks. 75 shot. stupid *** dry kit, ran a best of 13.09 @ 105mph.

so yes it can be THAT simple.

 

last dyno 182whp, MIGHT be at 200 now untuned. oem long block, 2125lb sedan, 22x8 slix, w/ 8200rpm launches. drag suspension.
wrong rims for slix, noisy distributor.
mucho street driven

12.8 @ 105

 

What do you guys need to do to take your 12-13 second cars and put it into the 11's?

Must the car be built with a Totally Different approach?

 

thanks for all the info guys,can we see some pics of these turbo 15/1600 setup's?