I was just wondering if anyone has done an HID conversion on civic projector headlights. I was hoping to try to do that, just was wondering if anyone else has done that.

 

I havnt done this but it should be plug and play just like both of the items (HID/projecters)

 

im interested in doing this as well. my friend put HIDS in his stock 95 civic lamps and the beam pattern is messy and unfocused. i was thinking maybe with projectors it can tidy up the beam. also it would retain the high beam which is good. input guys

 

we're doing it soon on my cousins black housing denji projectors.. i'll post pics as soon as its done.

 

Yeah I would be interested in seeing what that looks like..

 

Now that i thought about it, i am wondering how hard it will be to set up HIDs in a projector headlight for a 99 civic. I dont know how the wiring on HIDs are, but the projector has one wire runing from the wire harness into the housing of the headlight then splits into two running the low and high beam. The HID kit that i need to get would be for an H3 bulb since that is what projector use for their low beams. The problem I have is how am i going to run the high beams if the HID setup will run off the factory harness which runs both the high and low beams but thre HID kit is only for the low beams. Also, how will I be able to use the factory harness which is set up for an H4 bulb to run a H3 bulb in the projector.

 

they make harness kits that make it so you can run the low and the high at the same time so when you turn on the high's with projectors, the low doesnt turn off.. and wiring up HID is simple.. they will give you a wire diagram and the connecters needed.. you plug the wires from the ballast into the stock headlight socket, then you run the ignitor to the bulb. easy as pie..just make sure if they dont supply you with relays, that you upgrade your 10A fuses to at least 20..the 10's blow after like 3 seconds..

 

you might want to find out if the new HID lamps will even fit in the projector lamps. i have a set and thought about it, but didn't not want to be able to fit them in. the HID lamps are really long. ever seen them?

 

you dont have to put the whole bulb inside the projector.. if you do, you will have absolutely NO light on the ground..my friend did it like a year ago.. you have to make the little bubble inside the HID bulb hit the exact same spot inside the headlight that the spring in the halogen bulb does..and its perfect.

 

So how the heck are you gonna seal the headlight? Do you even know what you're talking about?

The first question you should ask yourself is...why do you guys want HID?

Is it to look cool with blue lights?

Is it to have superior night vision regardless of color?

It seems like many people are doing it for the wrong reasons...and don't believe the hype about HID kits over 6000K or whatever, especially the ebay BS about 8000k, 10000K, 12000K, etc...

 

you have to do whatever you can to seal it.. but if some idiot just wanted HID for the looks, he wouldnt need to worry about beam pattern correction.. and yes, 6000K and up kits are gay.. i see them all the time.. they look just like PIAA HID bulbs and they dont light up well.

 

Why would you bash people for wanting HID lights? Why do you do anything to your car? Are your chosen modifications (speed only I assume) in some way superior to "some idiot who only wants hid for the looks?" Being able to see at night helps. Maybe not win street races; I don't know about that. But it helps in that mundane task our cars were actually meant for: getting from where you are to where you want to go without hitting the neighbor walking his dog at 2 a.m.

Such a bunch of elitists on this site. Make it hard for new memers. Alienate them! Call them rice! Get off the holy HT mountain! You are not cool enough with your desire to look nice! That is HT heresy! Go fast! Nothing else...

I will step off the soap box now. Who's next?

 

ha.. nice way to pre-judge.. but the reason i say that, is because my friend tried to modify H4 HID bulbs into his H3 housing, there wasnt one patch of light on the ground whatsoever, meaning, if someone did that on purpose, just to have the HID look.. they are idiots, they WILL hit their neighbor..and as far as street racing goes..i feel drag racing is pretty stupid.. i only like racing where the road isnt straight.. and the numerous tein suspensions actually get used for the purpose they were made. now here comes the "people can do whatever they want to their cars" reply..but yeah "HT elitist" ? haha..i think most of the people on this board are stupid as ****, for one, they take peoples opinions as "flaming" and they get all bent because someone makes a comment about how they coulda saved like $700 if they didnt buy a suspension that they wont get anymore use out of than some eibach springs... so yeah.. nice post..but you should read more into the post before you have such a nice comeback

 

Obviously anything done in a less than satisfactory manner is not worth doing. I have not used hid, but I had piaa super whites. It made quite a difference. I have regular bulbs on my new car, and would like to address the issue at some point in the future.

As to bashing the post: I made no reference to those who were seeking answers to questions. I referred to the users who decided that those seeking information were somehow inferior. After all, they probably don't have super double wack remote reservoir coilovers. They just care about looks. Maybe someday they will see the light (if you could convey tonal inflection through typing you would infer sarcasm).

Off topic, I know. Just seems this board is straight from revenge of the nerds sometimes. Don't let me keep people from bolstering their confidence by belittleling others. I know it is harsh. Type face makes everything seem mean. I am wrong...

 

yes, piaa superwhites do make a big difference over stock.. cant say the same for the PIAA HID ones.. those ones that shine really purple.. those ones suck.. but the superwhite ones that have a light tint of blue, those are great.. as far as HID goes, i have yet to see a civic with HID thats not blinding to other drivers, even after adjustment.. thats why i suggest paying the extra money for a set of projectors + an H3 HID kit.. plus usdm 92-95 civic headlights SUCK.. the denji's light up nice.


[Modified by MTK Kommander, 7:31 AM 6/30/2002]

 

The reason I am asking is to find out what kind of goal the person wants to do. I am not elitist...I ask those kind of questions to get the person to think about what it takes and for him to get as much info from both sides of the equation so he can ultimately make an informed decision instead of going through a project and compromising or asking questions at every step.

Notice how MTK Kommander said that you have to seal it any way you can...to the novice who's asking how to do it, that just opens up another can of worms for him, which could lead to him being more confused and possibly making bad decisions. I don't care what you do to your car, I'd rather you research a lot before undertaking something so that you do it right the first time. Ever notice how people sell Philips HID retrofit kits? There's quite a few on ebay, with descriptions along the lines of "High quality HID by Philips" or "Philips is an OEM HID manufacturer." Well, that kinda misleads potential buyers because Philips does not make HID kits. They do not endorse, or provide tech support to buyers of those so-called "kits." Yes, those kits utilize Philips components, but that's about it. This is why Osram-Sylvania will not sell HID components to just anyone.

I've answered lighting questions in the past, and I've asked the same thing...why do you want aftermarket bulbs? For looks? Or for better night vision? I always follow up with a "Let me know which way you want to go and I will help you from there."

If I do sound elitist, well, I did not mean to offend. That's the problem with the written word...motive sometimes doesn't come across the way it's meant to be.

But for the original poster, please go to Philips' Automotive Lighting Forum at http://www.lighting.philips.com (see the bottom of the left hand menu). Register and talk to the people there. There are a lot of people there with more knowledge about lighting. One of NHSTA's directors in charge of lighting regulations is a regular there, and he goes by the name "Mr. 108" in deference to Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard #108, which covers vehicle lighting requirements. Good Luck.

 

I have found a company in Japan that are offering the H3 HID bulbs, I will be doing it soon on my civic. 6000K with Hella ballast

Thanks

 

6000K is better than halogen, but doesnt perform very well..id go with the 4300K.. and there are plenty of places that have H3 kits..
http://www.supremepowerparts.com
http://gdimports.com

are a couple

 

I am bringing this back up because this is exactly what I am wanting to do to my Eg with Denji projectors.

I would like to see some pics. And in the thread there is discussion about the HID bulbs not even fitting the lens because of it's length.

Pics are always nice

 

i havent seen any pics yet of Denji's with h3 HID.. but i have seen Denji's with their projectors swapped out for a set of OEM HID's..and that looks great.. its a little extra work..but if you already have the denji's its worth it.. and in most cases..cheaper.. not only do get 4300K HID..but you also get the OEM optics.. so you cant go wrong.

 

What OEM HID's were used? What kind of extra work is required?

 

one guy used those Hella 90mm projectors, and the other guy used S2000 projectors..

basically.. its a tough job..you have to take the "bowl" part of the projector apart from the lens.. then there is a bracket where it bolts onto the aiming hardware.. you cut that bracket off, so it's like a ring.. then you JB weld that ring onto the OEM HID projector, then bolt it back up..it will bolt on just like the other projector did, and you still use the same aiming hardware.. so its all gravy..

 

Taken from http://www.misterjung.com :

5200K:




7000K vs. halogen:




Here's how the focal point lines up and how the HID bulb isn't much longer. Granted, it's an H1 bulb, but you get the idea...


I've talked with this guy and he's got plug 'n play H3 kits that will fit the Civic projectors that use H3 bulbs for $379, shipped. I'm definetly getting this when I can afford it. As for people who have HID projectors, I believe Shawn Hays has 'em. Talk to him.

 

I told my brother last night that I will buy HID if I can get it for under 4 bones!
Does this guy post here on H-T?

I would like to see about HID for my Denji's

Thanks for the pics / info

 

I doubt it.