What tires are people running with their HX rims?
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What tires are people running with their HX rims?
Ok, I got me some black 14'' HX's and I want to upgrade my tires, I bought them for 200 with like brand new 195/60 Hankook tires. What is a good size/tire for them, I want something with a little less sidewall, and a little wider. How would a 205/55/r14 tire do on them?? I'm looking for some tires like kuhmo ecsta/ falken azenis do they make these tires for 14'' rims?
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Re: What tires are people running with their HX rims? (CapnKrunch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is a good size/tire for them</TD></TR></TABLE>
It depends on what kind of car you have (year, model, version). Is this for your '92 VX? If so, 185/60-14 would be best. 195/60-14 is a bit big but might work.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want something with a little less sidewall, and a little wider.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why? If you're looking for better performance, get better tires, not wider tires. And if you want less sidewall, the proper way to do so is by getting bigger wheels, not undersized tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How would a 205/55/r14 tire do on them??</TD></TR></TABLE>
The only tires in that size are R compound track tires. Are you buying these for use on the racetrack or autocross? If not, you're better off with 60-series tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm looking for some tires like kuhmo ecsta/ falken azenis do they make these tires for 14'' rims?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure which Kumho tire you're talking about, since they have a lot of different tires with the Ecsta name. If you're looking for a supersticky tire on dry pavement, the Falken Azenis RT-615 comes in 195/60-14. But if the Hankook tires on there now are the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212, that's a pretty good tire too; you may as well just use those.
It depends on what kind of car you have (year, model, version). Is this for your '92 VX? If so, 185/60-14 would be best. 195/60-14 is a bit big but might work.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want something with a little less sidewall, and a little wider.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why? If you're looking for better performance, get better tires, not wider tires. And if you want less sidewall, the proper way to do so is by getting bigger wheels, not undersized tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How would a 205/55/r14 tire do on them??</TD></TR></TABLE>
The only tires in that size are R compound track tires. Are you buying these for use on the racetrack or autocross? If not, you're better off with 60-series tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm looking for some tires like kuhmo ecsta/ falken azenis do they make these tires for 14'' rims?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure which Kumho tire you're talking about, since they have a lot of different tires with the Ecsta name. If you're looking for a supersticky tire on dry pavement, the Falken Azenis RT-615 comes in 195/60-14. But if the Hankook tires on there now are the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212, that's a pretty good tire too; you may as well just use those.
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Re: What tires are people running with their HX rims? (CapnKrunch)
I am running 195 55 toyo tr-1on hx wheels a 96 civic hatch . They are a bang for buck performance summer tire like the yoko avs 100 or avon tech m500. They took awhile to start working right (1K or so) but I like them, decent grip, very good in the wet, and much quieter than the avs 100's i ran prior. on the downside they are single ply sidewall so they take quite a bit of air to stiffen up enough to offer even so so turn in crispness. not allot of choices in 195 55 14 which is a good diameter to replace your stock 185 60 14. i wish there were more 195 55 14 as taller gearing on a vx or even cx/dx final drive ratio is not generally desirable.
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Re: What tires are people running with their HX rims? (mini-e)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It depends on what kind of car you have (year, model, version). Is this for your '92 VX? If so, 185/60-14 would be best. 195/60-14 is a bit big but might work.
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Yes, it is for my 92 VX. Why would 185/60R14, smaller tires be the best? I'm looking for a more performance oriented tire that will also be good for street use also. Well my tires do rub quite a bit though, but that is only because my coilovers are adjusted way too low...
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Why? If you're looking for better performance, get better tires, not wider tires. And if you want less sidewall, the proper way to do so is by getting bigger wheels, not undersized tires.
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Ah true... But I Am just looking for a performance tire for the wheels that I have, I am just trying to see what the best size tire/tire brand would be best for the 14's, to see if I can upgrade, or if it would be best to just keep my current tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The only tires in that size are R compound track tires. Are you buying these for use on the racetrack or autocross? If not, you're better off with 60-series tires.
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I am buying these tires for autocross/street use.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm not sure which Kumho tire you're talking about, since they have a lot of different tires with the Ecsta name. If you're looking for a supersticky tire on dry pavement, the Falken Azenis RT-615 comes in 195/60-14. But if the Hankook tires on there now are the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212, that's a pretty good tire too; you may as well just use those.
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How about Nitto tires? Do they make a good performance tire for 14 inch wheels? The Hankook tires I currently have are these, which I dont think are the Ventus R's...
It depends on what kind of car you have (year, model, version). Is this for your '92 VX? If so, 185/60-14 would be best. 195/60-14 is a bit big but might work.
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Yes, it is for my 92 VX. Why would 185/60R14, smaller tires be the best? I'm looking for a more performance oriented tire that will also be good for street use also. Well my tires do rub quite a bit though, but that is only because my coilovers are adjusted way too low...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why? If you're looking for better performance, get better tires, not wider tires. And if you want less sidewall, the proper way to do so is by getting bigger wheels, not undersized tires.
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Ah true... But I Am just looking for a performance tire for the wheels that I have, I am just trying to see what the best size tire/tire brand would be best for the 14's, to see if I can upgrade, or if it would be best to just keep my current tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The only tires in that size are R compound track tires. Are you buying these for use on the racetrack or autocross? If not, you're better off with 60-series tires.
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I am buying these tires for autocross/street use.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm not sure which Kumho tire you're talking about, since they have a lot of different tires with the Ecsta name. If you're looking for a supersticky tire on dry pavement, the Falken Azenis RT-615 comes in 195/60-14. But if the Hankook tires on there now are the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212, that's a pretty good tire too; you may as well just use those.
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How about Nitto tires? Do they make a good performance tire for 14 inch wheels? The Hankook tires I currently have are these, which I dont think are the Ventus R's...
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Re: What tires are people running with their HX rims? (CapnKrunch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, it is for my 92 VX. Why would 185/60R14, smaller tires be the best?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You answered your own question:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well my tires do rub quite a bit though, but that is only because my coilovers are adjusted way too low...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Partly, but it's also because 195/60-14 is oversized for your car.
As a general rule of thumb, the ideal tire size is one whose outer diameter is about the same as stock (preferably within 1 percent if possible) and whose treadwidth is no more than 20 mm wider than stock. These parameters minimize the chances of rubbing, maintain the accuracy of your speedometer/odometer, and don't slow down your acceleration the way bigger diameter tires do.
Now, look at how the outer diameter of these tire sizes compare with your stock size, and you'll see why 195/60-14 might easily rub even if your coilovers aren't adjusted quite so low (and why you will encounter the other downsides as well):
165/70-13: 22.09" (stock)
185/60-14: 22.74" (+2.9 percent)
195/55-14: 22.44" (+1.6 percent)
195/60-14: 23.21" (+5.1 percent)
As you can see, 195/60-14 is more than an inch larger in diameter, 5.1 percent larger (which is HUGE), and it's 30 mm wider than stock. That's why you're rubbing, and you may very well still rub with that size even if you set your coilovers higher.
That doesn't mean you can't run tires that big, but you're going to have to live with the rubbing, the poorer acceleration, the gauges being off, etc. That might be acceptable if you want the Azenis because you want something really sticky for autocross. But if you don't want to live with those disadvantages, then you're better off getting something in 185/60-14 or 195/55-14, something more suitable for street use, i.e. longer lasting and better in rain, although it will be less sticky for autocross. The previous suggestion of the Toyo T1-R in 195/55-14 ($71/tire at onlinetires.com) was a good one, and the Yokohama ES100 in 185/60-14 ($75/tire at the Tire Rack) is another. These are summer tires, and I assume from your location that you don't need to use these tires in snow or frigid cold. (If I'm mistaken about that, you will need all-season tires, the best of which in a 14" size is the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position in 185/60-14, $70/tire at the Tire Rack.)
I don't think Nitto makes a performance summer tire in 14" sizes. And no, that's not the Ventus R-S2 Z212.
You answered your own question:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well my tires do rub quite a bit though, but that is only because my coilovers are adjusted way too low...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Partly, but it's also because 195/60-14 is oversized for your car.
As a general rule of thumb, the ideal tire size is one whose outer diameter is about the same as stock (preferably within 1 percent if possible) and whose treadwidth is no more than 20 mm wider than stock. These parameters minimize the chances of rubbing, maintain the accuracy of your speedometer/odometer, and don't slow down your acceleration the way bigger diameter tires do.
Now, look at how the outer diameter of these tire sizes compare with your stock size, and you'll see why 195/60-14 might easily rub even if your coilovers aren't adjusted quite so low (and why you will encounter the other downsides as well):
165/70-13: 22.09" (stock)
185/60-14: 22.74" (+2.9 percent)
195/55-14: 22.44" (+1.6 percent)
195/60-14: 23.21" (+5.1 percent)
As you can see, 195/60-14 is more than an inch larger in diameter, 5.1 percent larger (which is HUGE), and it's 30 mm wider than stock. That's why you're rubbing, and you may very well still rub with that size even if you set your coilovers higher.
That doesn't mean you can't run tires that big, but you're going to have to live with the rubbing, the poorer acceleration, the gauges being off, etc. That might be acceptable if you want the Azenis because you want something really sticky for autocross. But if you don't want to live with those disadvantages, then you're better off getting something in 185/60-14 or 195/55-14, something more suitable for street use, i.e. longer lasting and better in rain, although it will be less sticky for autocross. The previous suggestion of the Toyo T1-R in 195/55-14 ($71/tire at onlinetires.com) was a good one, and the Yokohama ES100 in 185/60-14 ($75/tire at the Tire Rack) is another. These are summer tires, and I assume from your location that you don't need to use these tires in snow or frigid cold. (If I'm mistaken about that, you will need all-season tires, the best of which in a 14" size is the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position in 185/60-14, $70/tire at the Tire Rack.)
I don't think Nitto makes a performance summer tire in 14" sizes. And no, that's not the Ventus R-S2 Z212.
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