Hey all... heres the story, i recently purchased gc coilovers+koniyellows used off ebay. Been waiting all week, and today I finally got them!

Now heres some problems i immediately noticed.... the package was boxed twice, and the inner box was soaked with oil.... Leading me to believe that the condition of one or more of the konis was not as described....(Oil leaking out?)

Anyways I proceeded to test the condition of the konis.... and heres where I have no idea what I am doing.... I tested the rear konis first, and I was able to compress it with my hands. (Should I be able to do that?) Anyways I rotated the piston clockwise on both of the rear konis to increase the firmness, and they were harder to compress, but not impossible.

Now I went on to test the front konis , and heres where the big problems were... and I really hope that these are easily fixable...
Anyways like the rear ones, these were also easily compressible, but I noticed on ONE of the front konis, the piston would take forever to come out. Could this be due to a leak in the koni? I tried to adjust both of the konis, but even after turning the piston about 40 times, it made no difference in the firmness of the shocks.

So I mean.. i really dont know what to do... I was so happy to finally get them and now im bummed out because I think I just got totally ripped off. Im going to wrap up the konis in paper towels tonight and check for oil leaks in the morning...

Anyways this is bs because in the ebay item description, he described the konis as "The shocks are in great condition, still firm"

What do I do hondatech suspension?


Modified by riceforlife at 11:26 PM 12/11/2007

 

Am I entitled to a refund if these turn out to be trash?

 

Please more feedback guys... I need to know exactly what to do to either get these konis working, or to get my money back. Never again will I buy used....

 

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well here is what you can do. you can send them to ground control and have them dynoed for $10 a shock and we can tell you if there blown or even worth puting them on your car. so let me know.

 

WHile the offer is great and all... i really dont want to spend more money!! haha but i just tried compressing the shock really fast, and it gives in without resisting.... Also the adjuster for the front shocks dont even seem to work....I can turn it hundreds of times without any difference All right so guys are these blown?

 

well they are obliviously not in "great condition" like the seller said they were. I would of already asked for my money back.

 

Okay first of all, why are you compressing the piston and then turning it to try to adjust the shocks? That's how you adjust the red Konis, which are internally adjustable.

Koni Sports are externally adjustable. You just turn the tab on top of the shock piston with the Koni adjustment **** (NOT pliers!!!), and it should have a total range of about 1.75 turns from soft to hard.

Secondly, regular off-the-shelf Koni Sports are adjustable for rebound only. It does not affect how easy or hard it is to compress the shock rod.

What is important is that when you compress the rod by hand (which should not be difficult), it should fully extend on its own to the full extended length. If it doesn't extend back out, then you have problems.

A shock is not the same as a spring. A suspension spring is very hard to compress any significant amount by hand because of the high spring rate (compared to the amount of force you can apply by hand or even with your entire body). A shock (damper) inherently has a very small "spring rate", in that it takes a certain amount of force to compress the shock and then it will extend back out to its original length. But that's not the job of the damper. It's supposed to control the continual compression/extension of the spring.

So I would say that if there is no visible oil leaking out from the shock casing, the piston extends by itself after you compress it by hand, and the adjustment on top of the shock rod has the proper range of motion, then most likely you're okay.

Unfortunately, you not being the original buyer, Koni will not honor any warranties that the shocks originally had, and there will be money involved if you want Koni to service and/or rebuild the shocks.

 

Ok so can i get more confirmation on this, if i quickly apply my whole body weight onto the koni, and it moves does it mean its bad? And while im on the subject of testing the shock, if its upside down or different, does that have anything to do with it


Modified by riceforlife at 9:01 PM 12/12/2007


Modified by riceforlife at 11:06 PM 12/12/2007

 

"Apply your whole body weight and it moves" What do you mean? Apply your whole body weight to compress the shock piston? Of course it should move. Or do you mean that it won't compress UNTIL you apply your whole body weight?

And no it should not matter what orientation the shock is in, it should still extend out by itself to its full length.

 

No thats not what i mean. What i mean is.... if i press it fast should it move? I know it will move if i press it slowly, but what if its a sudden force? Only testing this because the guy above me said that if i press it fast its not supposed to move. And yes the piston does come out regardless of orientation. But i noticed the shock has less resistance when upsidedown. Im pretty sure thats normal tho because its a gas shock.

 

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Gas expands in all directions, so it shouldn't matter what direction they are oriented.